AV Geeks Lunch 7-26-2022

so so so hi everybody i'm skip alzheimer welcome to the av geeks lunchtime streaming show where we watch old 16 millimeter films and try to wrap our head heads collective head around what we just saw um this one's called witnessing an accident but there's no title um and it was written on the can uh but it wasn't like official tie so i don't know what this is i really have no idea and i can't remember where i got this from this might have been in very early ebay purchases no documentation in my notes about it but it's silent and it looks like it's trying to i don't know if it's made for the average person or if it's made for police officers uh but it's basically saying like wow different people see different things and then can come to a conclusion about what happened based on what they saw and also you know as we know our brains like to play tricks to make things nice and tidy so there's that um it's it's beginning to storm here so i don't know what's going to happen like we've been having some rolling thunderstorms and so sometimes the power goes out or sometimes the internet goes out so we're just gonna go until we can and if some reason i disappear know that um it's not a copyright strike it's a lightning strike all right so the next one we're going to watch is called making a mural and it's pretty great uh enjoy [Music] one evening long after business hours two men alone on the main floor of a great midwestern store discussed the making of a mural to adorn the space above the elevator entrances these men president of the store and toughest leading painters having decided on a sub-degree on an immediate start of the work the artist in accepting the commission would live five by 22 feet he first experiments with rhythmic designs or dynamic patterns working to create an interesting composition for the area to be covered mr benton makes many of these before he is satisfied he has a good basic pattern the final sketch is then elaborated in a rough pencil drawing of mr benton's idea or plan for the mural the lines of the drawing follow the base rhythms of the sketch next the pencil drawing is given third dimension in a clay model the emphasis is not yet on fine detail but on the overall effect modeling in clay is a necessary step in the benton style of painting strongly three-dimensional science period it depends in large part on the use of light and shadow the clay model under diffused light is flat and uninteresting the group is not drawn together as it is when a strongly directed light radiates from a central overhead point thus with light the artist makes the figure stand out from the background and centers the interest this effect is obvious transferred to a small idea for the mural appears for the first time in color based on a theme from greek mythology it portrays the struggle for the favor of a greek princess between hercules and the river guard akalois who has assumed the shape of a bull and is in this instance symbolic of man's struggle with the missouri river and conquest of its broad and fertile valley this small scale color panel completes the artist's basic work except for details it appears as the finished mural will appear and will be submitted for the patrons approval now details become important and the artist calls in live models he captures tenseness and movement shading indicates attention to the third dimension which is further developed in additional clay models both of single figures and groups they show in their greater detail the artist's careful preparation [Music] all of these aids the clay models and the sketches are consulted by the artist as he prepares a cartoon or outline drawing of the mural every line every form that will appear in the finished mural is here indicated in miniature if corrections are to be made they must be made at this time [Music] the cartoon is of the exact proportions of the planned mural it is marked off into squares to simplify the transfer of the drawing to the large panel [Music] the squares are numbered and lettered [Music] the completed cartoon also shows the flat color ins which roughly define the areas of light and shade and now with the mural panel set up in his studio mr benton checks the alignment of the frame which supports the canvas then he begins the squaring of the panel because of its extreme length he uses tightly stretched threads for the horizontal lines for the verticals lightly drawn charcoal lines the content of each small square on the cartoon will occupy a corresponding larger square on the mural in areas where there's a great amount of detail the squares are subdivided to assure accurate transfer [Music] then square by square the cartoon is transferred to the canvas [Music] after the scaling up process is completed mr benton prepares his paints he uses the yolks of eggs as the binder for his pigments his paint must dry quickly because he's working to meet a time limit [Music] the solvent is made by mixing the yolks with distilled water it is thoroughly blended with the raw pigment making a quick drying tempera color [Music] the mixed paints will not exactly match those of the original small painting but they must appear to do so at the average viewing distance which will be about 30 feet the charcoal lines of the drawing gradually give way to color in areas of complicated form mr benton uses brown and white tone masses technically known as underpainting to determine the three-dimensional effect on the flat surface [Music] the artist makes frequent reference during the course of the painting to his clay models and sketches to perfect detail [Music] square by square paint fills in the outlines of the drawing [Music] then after the figures and landscape are filled in mr benton goes over his work deaf touches of paint bring off the luminous three-dimensional character of his painting mr benton uses a diminishing glass for regular appraisal of his colors through the glow to the size of the small color sketch from which is working thus even though working in the confines of the effect of the 30-foot viewing distance seven distinct tones of blue are required for the sky from the deep blue of the dome to the hazy blue of the horizon this sky paint is mixed with a binder of vinyl light and beeswax although it dries as rapidly as tempra this binder permits the brushing out and even blending of the paint mr betten paints in his sky after the figures of objects along the skyline are virtually completed painting the figures over the sky background would cause the colors to lose their proper hue [Music] again the artist compares his colors to the original not to match them but to make sure they will appear the same on the mural [Music] in the finished sky all seven shades of blue are smoothly blended the mural is apparently complete but the hand of the master painter is disclosed in a few finishing touches now the full three-dimensional effect is realized the rhythmic movement of the form shows clearly [Music] facial expressions are fully developed and all the colors of the mural are gathered together in the fruits [Music] the result of nearly eight months of dreaming planning and hard work an old legend of man's struggle to master his environment is brought to life again in missouri finally the last of several protective coats of wax before the mural is moved to the store and now framed and mounted on the store's wall the mural fulfills its function a lasting contribution to the art of america and of the world [Music] that's so frustrating so that's something i i got a bunch there was a long time ago god more than 10 years ago that um i heard that charlotte mecklenburg libraries was getting rid of their foam collection and they were having a sale and i got a list and [Music] i was like i couldn't make it to the sale so i wrote the librarian that was in charge of it i said all right i'll take whatever is left like you sell it for whatever and then i'll just take i'll save you a trip to the dumpster and i'll load up on whatever is left and in that was fascinating amazing stuff because i figured like all the anybody who's interested in film would pick the stuff that's easy um but i got stuff that i had no idea what it was and i actually did get my favorite cartoon of all time quasi at the quackadero a copy of that which i love um but this was one of them but the caveat was that the charlotte mecklenburg library they hired somebody there to put in the little this is property of charlotte mecklenburg library at just before the end uh or just before the credits on all the films so it's really frustrating it's like oh my god so there you go that's what that is um all right so behind me i have uh nope behind me i have a film scanner set up and we're going to watch a film in theory here we go architectural careers enjoy ah hey [Music] [Music] oh i entered university and spent five years there and then when it came to summer work i decided that it was probably best to work in a number of different firms of varied sizes and by that by doing so i could therefore gain experience in the way offices run they're all much different varying from the large to the small one of the aspects that characterize the architectural approach of this firm i think could be described as a total design to us this means uh not only the uh resolution of the environment uh from the external point of view but uh including the internal spaces uh right down to the last ash tray the draperies the carpets the furniture this approach gives us the opportunity to fully express our thinking in architecture without restricting it to a shell or a partial statement where others could then come in and perhaps literate or violate the concept that we have you might ask well how can this be achieved in the field of mass housing where you have a multi-headed client well in many ways i suppose this can't be achieved in its ultimate sense but i think in a problem of that sort we possibly would have to overstate some basic design concepts in other words make a strong enough overall statement such that uh different clients could uh make use of this space and because the overall concept is so strong that they could not obliterate or violate the overall sense of the space [Music] uh [Music] [Music] in our particular office as with many offices we have several types or classifications of people who do different work or we have the people who do the actual drawing or draftsman we have the designers we have people who do administration specification writers the designers of such could specialize in interior designing although the personnel that we appear to attract to our office because of our design philosophy are usually people who are sympathetic to this overall design concept where the interior exterior design is a part and parcel of the whole concept right okay um i think we can have uh two sets of prints delivered to your office on friday morning well does the architect's role face extinction i don't think so uh i think the architect may be on the brink of uh a new era right now and how well he can adjust to the changing technologies will determine what role the architect will play in the future role of construction and design what the architect today has to learn is how to use modern technology how to make use of these tools and not treat them as enemies the word standardization modules computers bring connotations of a very sterile and graph paper type of facade and i don't think this is necessarily a thing that has to be i think the computer can be a marvelous tool in the architect's hands i believe they've developed the computer to such a degree that by programming a plan and the elevations that it will then immediately produce perspectives that can be viewed from a low angle a high angle from this side or from that side and this is a marvelous tool to use in helping the architect to develop a concept or a structure the role of the architect in the world is changing he's now instead of being the master builder before he's now part of the multi-disciplinary building team and therefore he no longer is the person that is was the uh the leader of the building team he is now part of it nowadays the architect is a specialist a member in a team which could involve land economists real estate consultants sociologists psychologists geographers um all these disciplines we have various times worked with and it's this success in adapting to this new role of working as a member of a highly complex team i think this uh success in fitting this new role is what the architect has to work towards people are singly the most important element in our architecture we view them particularly in terms of the activities in which they're involved in the kinds of values that they tend to articulate about the buildings and spaces that we create for them the landscape architects are people trained to look at activities and social situations and trained to tell us how to modulate our spaces to better serve the purposes of the people who use them [Music] don't you think it's about the time you started considering the recreational facilities in this area well yeah i have been stand i've been looking at you know but god i mean putting them all in this corner is really too much we need we need something that ties together and ties into that park and the recreation recreational facility yeah i know it doesn't matter they don't have to be located there look at i mean there's a pedestrian street that ties here and cuts across the uh the housing area and connects right through here one of the problems to my mind that exists within architecture today is what i would call a rather classical view it's the view of the architect that he is in one sense or another a sort of the visual conscience of the nation he tends to hold his values up as being those values by which the whole of the physical environment should be designed we feel in our office that this is not a valid view we feel that people are tremendously diverse and animated and that they should have or be able to affect the architecture that we create in that sense we try to involve them as much as we possibly can if a person who becomes our client can feel at the end of our business with them that is after we have made architecture with him that he rather than us has been the designer once the design and working drawings have been completed and the project has been put out for competitive tendering and a contractor who has submitted the letter the low tender has been awarded the contract the architect's administrative role comes to the fore as opposed to his creative role for instance the project which the client and the contractor and i are discussing at the moment this is one aspect of our administered role we're discussing a rather major change to the planning on the 13th and 14th floors of this building floors which haven't been built they're complete new usage of these floors and it's involving some hundreds of thousands dollars worth of construction changes you quite realize that the committee must have a firm price and a realistic one i i do hope that you can resolve this and perhaps by tomorrow you can't give me well i will also i think if phil and i get together and uh talk about the exact details in here well your air conditioning you'll have to no the architect's role in this negotiation is to make sure that the owner our client gets full value for this change there is no competitive tendering because we already have a contractor on the site and he can submit his own prices the architect must be in a position to assure the client that the prices are fair and reasonable yeah so that it's up to you and i to sit down and discuss how we can resolve our price differential yes well you see we had to assume a few things uh in uh pricing this uh proposal we have prepared one was that these book stacks which you say are deleted uh are not reflected in as a credit in our costings as they might be used this is only one aspect and while it's major funds involved it's rather a small part of the total time which the architect spends during the construction period for example we figure that done a project such as this or smaller projects that 20 to 25 of the time in the architect's time is spent actually on the site walking around looking at the construction seeing that things are being built in accordance with the drawings and with specifications by and large the role of the architect during construction is a very satisfying one he can see what intangible evidence what he thought was going to happen a year earlier he can see whether a 40-foot high space really is the kind of space he wanted to see you can see what 40 feet wide looks like and sometimes he's disappointed and sometimes he's delighted but i guess it's uh not priority number one you know with the owner so we can use a little float time there and we'll gain back with the good weather so we couldn't boil the coffee or the man couldn't work winter offers a [Music] the remaining 75 to 80 of the time is spent within the architects office checking contractors prices for extras or credits to the contract doing additional drawings which explains the finer details of the room layouts or the color schemes things which were not necessarily included in detail in the original drawings which the contractor bid upon now this involves not only the architects but the structural engineers the mechanical engineers the electrical engineers and all of these people who are under the leadership of the architect have their role to play during construction [Music] well i'm presently employed by one of the largest firms as an architectural docsman and i feel that by working in a firm like this one can get varied experience and at the same time at one stage or the other you reach some sort of a dead end that you no longer can move up and you have learned whatever you can in this field or up to a stage and then i think one can also by going to do this technology as a technologist one can later on going to graduating as a full-fledged architect by going back to uh you know by going back to university and by doing this i think one can acquire a varied experience both in technology as well as in design which of course when you go to university that's where the design of course is oriented when it came to deciding for a permanent job i had concerned myself with the thesis on transportation and as a result i looked for a firm that was working with a similar sort of thing the firm i'm presently employed with is doing a very large study for an airport and consequently i decided that this would be a very good firm to go with our group represents a fairly large group and you can see from the size of the projects that we're looking at here must represent a different approach to architecture than individuals we have a staff of over 200 people in this office here the organization that we have is broken down into people who are involved in pre-design programming and sort of fact-finding analysis for a client they are sort of research oriented people and then following them are the people who do the physical concept design and produce the drawings the models the external appearance that a person sees about architecture from a student's point of view looking for a university some universities are still providing courses which were identical with the ones that were offered 15 20 25 years ago and are producing people who are essentially the same kind of people as as we had in those years other universities are taking a much more objective look at the thing and are providing split degree courses where instead of five years leading to a straight bachelor of architecture there are shorter courses three years leading to perhaps a bachelor of environmental studies and then on through more specialized secondary bachelor degree courses in landscape architecture or conventional architectural degrees or architectural economics real estate oriented courses financially oriented or minister of the armed courses so we are looking for people with specialized educational backgrounds and we are looking to these forward thinking universities for this students today going into architecture should make themselves aware of the changes in technology that have happened during the past couple of decades and should re-look to more towards the future than towards the past and what an architect is going to be doing not come out out of the school merely design buildings straight away it's a long hard struggle it really is i think the architect will win out in the end if he's sensitive to what he can do and that he is the master of these elements not they of him [Music] me [Music] he's some um hating on the flautist um so that was canadian if you didn't gather uh and it's alwyn i'm not sure how to pronounce that uh they've done a couple i have a couple of films that they made about different um career choices um i don't think they have flutes in them but i don't know maybe we'll pull them out and see uh one is in the insurance industry insurance careers which is scintillating um the rest yeah all right so okay let's get you some animation let's get you out of that um and this is the boy who cried wolf enjoy you [Music] [Music] oh [Music] [Music] ah [Music] [Music] oh [Music] much [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] yep [Music] hmm [Music] uh [Music] uh [Music] [Music] wow [Applause] um [Music] [Music] hmm [Music] [Applause] [Music] him [Music] hmm hmm [Music] [Applause] [Music] so [Music] so [Music] hmm [Music] [Applause] [Music] uh [Music] [Music] [Music] hmm [Music] birthday [Music] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Music] [Music] so [Music] so [Music] [Music] huh [Music] [Music] oh [Music] now [Applause] [Music] hmm [Music] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Music] so [Music] [Music] [Music] so hmm [Music] uh [Music] um [Music] so so [Music] so [Music] so [Music] so [Music] all right it kind of redeemed itself at the end right it wasn't totally depressing um so i've been going through uh boxes of films that don't have anything written on them i'm like what is this what is this um because sometimes we get a lot of films and we just don't know what is what um because sometimes we get thousands of film at a time or two boxes get consolidated and then some information about what's on the film is lost so we've been trying to watch some of these and this one is kind of a surprise um i'm going to call it mystery film it's on the sintel and i'm going to run it at slower than real time speed and i'll tell you the story alright enjoy all right it's not really behaving for some weird reason not sure what's going on here it's like a tension thing hold on i'm just gonna get this to work right one second so i have to adjust the tension here this is not great so all right let's see if i can do this all right it's not working sorry um there seems to be some tension issues with this uh sintel recently and i'm gonna have to figure out what's going on i'm sorry anyways it was um here's a frame it was it looked like some uh uh animation that i did i don't know when i don't know if it was uh it might have been in college um where you write on film uh and so i'm gonna have to play with this and maybe tomorrow i'll set it up and we can watch it um thanks for tuning in today a variety of different things we watched and i'm going to wow i just realized that you can support our efforts by you can support our efforts by um let me let me fix that um anyways you can support our efforts by one hitting the like button hitting the thumbs up button um you know hit hitting subscribe telling other people about what you're doing or what i'm doing um you can also go to ko-fi.com slash av geeks to buy us coffee which we will drink uh and then you can also go to our brand new uh channel which is at uh channel.av 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