Wayne McLean: Mouthpieceous Extraordinairous
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Earl Kisluk, 1990. Noted CFRB talk jock McLean (1944-2018 RIP) fields the godforsaken opinions of his listeners, while offering some of his own!
Home transfer from 16mm original.
Complete Record: Earl Kisluk, 1990. Noted CFRB talk jock McLean (1944-2018 RIP) fields the godforsaken opinions of his listeners, while offering some of his own! Home transfer from 16mm original.
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eight seven to ten ten is the number here at CFRB hi Carol thanks for waiting you're on the air Queen I'm very angry why are you angry well I'm a or even the thought of letting these people carry their swords you see we're coming to this country want you to wear their headbands and they're scary there's no what about those Sikhs who were born they come to can in the first place what about those Sikhs who were born here how do you feel about them happen really yes really Wow and you want to know what you are a girl do you say that yourself I say it myself I'm proud of it really yes I am let me ask you something I'm being sincere when you see somebody with a turban want to be in my Mounties and and what what is it what are the feelings that go through your mind and it must be bugs under there who you hate them they're not since do you hate them I have no hate for them at all none I have very dislike further further nonsense why did they come to Canada in the first well some of them were born here oh no tell me we're boring here it's really sad to hear it I'm not sad here is the truth there's many people feel my way oh I know I know York you're liberal I'm afraid way very leper don't accuse me of I don't like them you said it yourself dude well what do you think you aren't Carol I mean really what am i a Canadian born Britain Canada have you ever been to a KKK meeting I certainly have no I wouldn't think of going to one do you know the some of the things you say are similar to I disagree with the way you think at all care whether you agree disagree with me it doesn't even matter get me somebody that doesn't agree with you people racist well you called me a liberal yeah I don't know what I am Carol I know what your conversation I getting the feeling you're very liberal I don't know it is that a sin that's tomorrow no it's not a set of course not okay thank you for the call 87 to 1010 this number we'll be back with more whoa wait McClane show is on the air I should mention before we get into the heart of this that we have a film crew in the studio today and we have some four or young people here from York University who are studying what is it film production 103 or something I don't production third year third year and guess what they're doing a documentary on me and I said the Earl who is the ringleader of all of his yeah you're that hard up for topics I was I was a thief I was a on my way to being a real badass you know it was radio when I was 16 and I got involved in radio are interested in radio again I think I figured at the time some of the stuff I was doing was pretty bad and I said gee I mean I didn't you know there's enough nothing violent or anything I said to myself if I don't it'll stop this I'm gonna probably wind up in big trouble so you know and I certainly won't get on the radio little did I know you say open line service or entertainment and I see my first reaction is to say yes thank you to both of them because it is service and it is entertainment at the same time you can't divorce the two you can put stimulation on top of that but but when it comes down to the final analysis it's got to be entertainment it just has to be or else you become the CBC slow lane McClane show on CFRB 1010 your direct access to Toronto opinion and information to participate bone 8:00 7:00 to 10:00 Janice you touch an area that I'm concerned about and I think for a great deal about I can't see government performing a role in film this will make a lot of people mad but I just can't see it this is a free market you make a movie you run it if it works fine if it doesn't work then are you going slash your throat government doesn't have a role in that that's not the public airwaves like broadcasting is that's somebody's piece of celluloid am I saying the right word celluloid that's somebody's piece of celluloid that's a private thing I was a fundamentalist Baptist preacher I was in radio 4 professionally for about 4 years and I got what I believed at the time to be quote unquote the call to the ministry so I'm the kind of guy that if I feel I have to do something and you know so I I did III I believed I had the call to go to the ministry so I quit radio went to seminary for four years got a degree in theology and what is the ministry for about five years and then eventually I began to change my thinking and all the stuff that I have been taught and what I had believed to be so in certain areas not in all areas because I'm not an atheist but I didn't agree with myself anymore so I stood up and I quit and went out to California for seven months to learn the movie business sold radio time to earn a living and came back to Windsor and started all over again and radio for the third time I think and that was in 78 so a lot of years here went by and specialized in open line and Here I am I've been doing open line for what 18 years 17 years now that's the story you come to me at a very high time at a very very joyful time because the the latest rating just came up and we're at number two position but very very close to number one I can taste it now I can feel it I can sense I can smell the blood of being number one the next rating starts at about a week from now and I think and believe that when that rating comes out we'll be number one which is the only thing that matters to me yes III more I I'm not religious that much obviously my more spiritual now than I've ever been when I was in the ministry because I had to learn that what happens in the ministry often times is that we we become like the Pharisees in the New Testament those of us that were in fundamentalism and we emphasize that the outward you know the rules you know that don't swear don't smoke don't drink don't gamble don't dance don't you know that that kind of stuff swagger whom I despised at one point and publicly condemned on the air in three different markets including this one has undergone a tremendous change since his his dalliance is in New Orleans motel rooms and I've been watching him the last couple of weeks and you know and I really disliked this man you know because he was a judgmental guy and he pointed the finger at Jimmy Baker and then went out to New Orleans the next Saturday night and you know picked up Deborah Murphy the hooker most days I have nothing to say you see the key to it is not what I have to say the key to it is being able to stimulate or revoke out of the caller something to say because what Wayne McClain thinks feels is irrelevant the only thing that matters is the caller getting from the caller that which the caller truly feels so I will say things like come on don't hold back tell me how you really feel are you sure that you feel that way that's the role not whether I sit and pontificate in front of anybody can do that but not everybody can get the caller to pontificate and that's what you want to do you see okay let me let me get you to focus on something mr. Sher Singh if I can which I think is important some people say and you've heard this so I'm not telling you anything new and though some people will probably call and say this this afternoon and that's okay they say some of them they want to change Canada they want to change our traditions and so on and so forth how do you respond to that kind of thing some people are sincere in saying that others are not as lofty in their motives but what do you say to them I presume that all of these demons are absolutely sincere because there's some validity to those concerns and I have no difficulty in accepting that she's been taking lessons I think well Wade mcclain show is on the air come on you know like don't even ask me that you know I could yeah if you sit down and you've got a group of people and a camera and a piece of film in a magazine what's the end product unless you're doing a documentary for a school mark your main goal is the bottom line as this going to play in Peoria is this gonna be the box office if it's not going to play in Peoria if you're not gonna show a net profit after recoupment then you're wasting your time and often that's what's happening here is the National Film Board or telefilm or whatever the heck it is they give you money nobody cares about whether you're gonna make money or lose money all they care about is give us the money give us the grant give us the tax dollars I'm sorry that's not what film is for film is to show a net increase on the bottom line from what you spent you spend a thousand dollars you make fifteen hundred dollars that's where it's at Jimmy for the first time in your goddamn life you're being what you're supposed to be and that's a preacher of the gospel instead of a you know a member of the Sanhedrin pointing fingers at other people you know and and he's saying things out like to the Pentecostals the Assemblies of God which is the denomination down there Pentecostals you know he's saying to the to the one line that really blew me away he says you know you people come here every week to church and that's fine and he says this is gonna be hard for you to take and you know Jimmy doesn't he just works that front row like the guy's a real master at it and he just you know he gets way up on the on the valley like he just gets hammered never what we need and then he comes down and he pulls the Mike in and he gets real close and he says you know it's gonna be hard for you to take and I don't believe in alcohol he said and I despised it but I'd rather see you people come in drunk rather see you come in drunk than to see you have an unforgiving spirit and a backbiting tongue and a gossiping tone and and and I said holy cow you know I'm saying to myself gee you know the guy's starting to understand now what it's all about I thought so you have to cough we'll see so I turned the microphone off and I look off and I could whatever I do I do that's the most ridiculous thing I ever heard you guys have got to recognize that this is not an ego booster for me in any sense of the word so whether I'm white blue or indifferent to cut somebody off is only done for the sake of timing or dramatic effect with the accent on the words dramatic effect yeah I get a lot a lot of hate mail but that's normal though it goes with the territory some of it some of it's pretty vicious pretty vitriolic but I've never had only one guy in London years ago may have made a threat and it wasn't even a threat of death but that's normal it goes with the course one guy one guy wrote it was funny I mean was just I've got it at the at the office you should take a look at it at the office I pin up all the good ones you know and this one guy said you from listening to you What did he say you are pro sodomite Pro black Pro apportion Pro women's lib pro-zionist your friends are probably black your wife is Jewish you know and that sort of thing they don't have the guts to call me names when they're on the air the only thing they've got guts to do is write in a letter that's unsigned that I'm a bigot that I'm rude that I'm condescending that I'm arrogant and so on and so forth I came from the from the wrong side of the tracks from welfare housing we never owned the house we never owned the car I swore when I was 13 years old but I would buy the biggest American what that money could buy before I was through and the biggest house that money could buy it took me thirty three years to get the Cadillac but I got it don't ever stand in my way you know if I want something happy no no you know you see the ought to must never catch up with the what is because I'm already working on the next car now so as soon as you achieve one goal and it doesn't have to be a Cadillac and it doesn't have to be a million bucks you know as soon as you achieve one goal if you don't have another to take its place then then you'll start to stagnate Witsel before the existential estate that you know when you stop learning you start dying you get got it the ought to must never catch up with the what is it's all show business I mean all what did Shakespeare say all the world's a stage you're wanted on the telephone by Wayne McClane it's not a question of being happy or unhappy there's nothing I can do to change it all you have to remember is that there's a distinction between the public airwaves which I've acknowledged in which their Commission has a role to play and what wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute there's a distinction between that and this when you're rolling film that belongs to the marketplace and not to the government you ever fine you just rivaling ah oh by doing that now tell me I don't think so tu li p the first one is total depravity unconditional election limited atonement irresistible grace and perseverance of the saints well he's preaching and for a Pentecostal it's unusual because they they are what is there there what are called our minions in theology okay and and our minion ism just means that you can frustrate God's will by by choosing not to accept what you know Jesus and all that stuff when you people have been sitting sitting here asking me all of these questions and filming and I'd like to have a shot at it so how about my turn what do you think I mean come on you guys okay ready to roll yeah I'm rolling how are you do you mind if I film you for a second as you walk by that you're watching late great movies on City TV huh the life prepares you for open live broadcasting are all the movies prepare me Detroit prepared me everything I experienced as a kid and you know prepared them television prepares me I watched TV six or seven hours of days you know everything prepares you this prepares me you know what we're doing right now from my standpoint wide why I don't know whether I'm a good open line host or not I can't answer the question for the kind of guy that I am the answer to the question is a good light good old little a good open line host is somebody who can stage the callers and can stage the reaction and stage the the input that he or she is going to get that's what matters staging you mean as in parody a mockery is that what you mean by farce this is the air force right here you know you know that don't you coming back here in about ten seconds for all and for those of you students always those of you students who are watching call now eight seven to ten ten just so much horsefeathers so much horsefeathers who is looking at it is it what is it a filler on on pay television that's all you're right that's the best you can hope for is a filler on on on first choice for God's sakes that's not what film is about film is about storytelling about human emotions it's about people it's about making money in your best shot at old-time radio I know use the like well it depends what you mean by old-time radio old-time radio to me was the late 50s and early 60s when you had the personality charts and the rock and roll music was new I'm first generation television I'm first generation rock and roll you know what can I tell you about old-time radio I mean I mean people say old-time radios you know the shadow and all those right now the Detroit one what about the Detroit bit the Detroit bit was where I grew up that's where I fell in love with show business was in Detroit I was born in Windsor I mean I listened to 57 radio stations 57 of them a time they didn't talk they played tunes they didn't rhyme it was rock and roll so all the new it's 20 minutes before the hour this is Grant Hudson's ekow 20/20 news hot lead in the head three dead two under the knife or six more pair of feet peak up from under the rubber blankets at the Wayne County morgue his accommodations get tighter at the Kedavra Hill brother bill gable clouds tonight not too much change and ever ring tomorrow Toledo has 72 to Cleveland 71 it's 69 that's 18 Celsius this is grant Hudson C klw first in the Motor City with 2020 yeah they don't do that anymore on radio that kind of news too bad oh well what can you do times change
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