AV Geeks Lunch 5-16-2023

foreign foreign happy lunch everybody um nothing is as appetite easing as seen um tinted footage of raw sewage being processed uh in the 20s and 30s almost 100 years old sewage there you go that was part of the Mogul Brothers collection which ultimately we scan for the Oregon archive which is based in Pittsburgh um Mogul Brothers based it was a film Library based in New York City and I actually saw some other Mogul Brothers films as part of the prelanger collection which was in Richmond the city uh on the other side of the Bay from San Francisco and they are also scanning some older brother stuff so they're scanning some things that we don't have we're scanning some things that they don't have contributing to the Grand wonderment that is the internet archive so there you go all right uh thank you Kevin for five dollars uh for showing pictures of poop uh we're just gonna jump to the um excuse me to the scanner behind me behind me uh and uh we got some films from the Chicago Film Society uh they have been calling their collection and pulling out stuff that's not important to their collection and we've that's how we've ended up with some stuff is that uh archives and institutions don't have a lot of space and so they go through they do a pass and they pull out stuff that they don't want and then they ask me do I want it and then I pay for shipping and handling and all that stuff so we got I don't know 50 60 films from them and so going through them uh just looking at titles I pulled this one it's it's called shut up I'm crying so I have no idea what this is this might be a get like crazy adult I don't know I'm gonna be standing by but uh here's shut up I'm crying enjoy [Music] [Music] [Music] thank you [Music] thank you [Music] [Applause] [Music] thank you nice hold on a sec the potential is very high as that is the man who makes the donuts uh I can't remember the name of the character actor but uh yes he shows up in a bunch of commercials and it's exciting to see him in something like this let's see how this works [Music] this morning well what about the brass nipples tell me nothing you've never you never remember anything I told you how to Brash nipples with the elbows and with the flush valves didn't I you told me nothing I said I told you that's the fourth time this week that you forgot I forgot nothing why can't you write things down what are you trying to do put us out of business are you trying to put me out of business what business excuse me is this the weinman wholesale plumbing supply and maintenance Corporation yeah why are you Murray weinman yeah why are you Tilda Wyman yeah why Tilda weinman Murray's wife yeah why good very good I'm a Genie how do you do Genie that's a name for a man you know a magic Genie yeah right I'm Roy Rogers this is my lovely wife trigger Peter no seriously I'm a Genie I work the whole west side yeah right and I'm Captain Marvel and I said beat it listen please I have something for you yeah right and I got something for you too my lovely wife trigger now take off will you will you just listen to God's sake sure I'll listen you do the inventory Murray let him talk you talk to him I got work to do but I have to talk to both of you look Jimmy be a good guy and take off I got white to do Genie what Genie who is me I'm a Genie Marie let the man talk sure him you let talk or her Genie what are you some kind of fairy or something yes in a way well sorry sweetheart don't go for that Murray okay forget the whole thing abuse I don't need look what the hell do you want forget it I come special to you and the Miss is here to change your life and I get abused change your life she already did for the last five years my flesh isn't the cold flashes and the screaming and the crying and the freezing and the sweating believe you me Jenny from change of life I'm an expert Johnny Genie Genie Jenny I care right look what are you selling raffle tickets here here's a quarter I don't believe you but beat it goodbye and good luck and don't come back soon not to you Mary Murray I'll go by schindling up the block hold it eat your heart out a second chance I don't give wait Mister a what more smart alec remarks Murray apologize what kind of apologize he's afraid to ruin his amateur standing Murray apologized all right Jackie you got two minutes talk fast don't slam the door on your way out I apologize Ready set go two minutes I don't need and don't get smart again I do plagues too you know Mr sit speak so God knows why but you too have been granted three wishes whatever you want anything you name it you got it that's the whole story finished 11 seconds Wise Guy you want to talk it over all right I'll keep talking to a musical accounts this Nut could be an ax might arrest you want to stay and I'll go football's got a gun so we get killed together I'm tired anyway very romantic how would you know listen to hot pass after 36 years you suddenly got locked your let's go I got two more stops today same kind of business it's all in the same line one place I giveth in one place I taketh away see what I told you hear how he talks he has a fairy and also very crazy are you sure you won today I'll stay but hurry what do I go tell them you're gonna get some tea you'll be right back okay your time is up hold your water don't get fresh again it's my store okay Mr big shot now you've got two minutes and then you're penalized one wish mommy I'll be back in a few minutes where are you going not just lunch enough to get some tea I'll be right back but I need both of you I give Murray full power of attorney over all my wishes whatsoever whatever you say see if they have a cheese danish or a prune if not maybe a bow tie or a Cruella uh maybe a toasted corn or a brand they got good brands only with no raisins [Music] energy they get in my cavities that whole aggravation I don't need you got bad teeth right like my father he got a good dentist terrible I got a cousin's got an office over on Hilda would you get the goddamn tea then we can talk about two things height when gallbladder the whole day you've been in the business long always it's a tough Buck huh it's a job we're dying here mm-hmm I mean businesses this time could be because you're such a nasty person Look Who's Talking you have a candid camera right wrong look what about the three wishes still want to go through it right yes and right now you're making me very depressed free right free right anything right anything right well what I could do with three wishes right now you got it kid anything at all right nine times I told you you need an affidavit bear in mind though whereas beneficiary agrees to accept and fulfill all benefits and or Consequences derived from the request departure from this agreement no matter how slight his course for nullification of contract without exception therein thereof what this means is whenever you wish you got to go through with it no changes no trade-ins for Keeps or else or else what never mind whatever else good it's not [Music] okay Jerry here goes Genie right uh first I would like to wish for a smart strong son he should take over this business when I retire because we never had no kids this business you wish to understand that's number one and he should have a nice wife to keep him happy while he's here that's two two what two a son and a daughter-in-law that's one that's a package deal that's two don't cheat never mind package deals oh I'm gonna play no more if you're gonna make new rules and call names why me why do I get all the lunatics more names forget about the whole thing okay kid a son and a wife you got it next number two I would like a a four weeks all expense paid vacation in uh Atlantic City for children me you got it no no wait wait I mean I mean Bermuda you didn't let me finish you got it includes plain Fair clothes luggage hotel room tips and it's on the modified American Plan what does that mean breakfast and dinner is only no lunch you know Cheapskate take it or leave it as it is I'm losing money on the deal call that a wish it's the most half-assed wish ever all right I'll throw in water skiing lessons and box lunches every other day and that's the best I can do believe me I'll take it terrific you just made my day you got one more and for my Third Wish I Wish I wish I'm not like you would go away and never fought on me to come in my store again because you are a spooky person and you scare me and you upset my wife which is a normal condition anyway and you give me a killer migraine and so long Murray regards to your son here's your receipt where is this person he was right here where's this person now disappeared what do you mean he disappeared disappeared well how could he gotten out of here I don't know but I was standing right here hold it you tell what this person looked like he was about so high oh no officer he was about so high and about this what mustache he had eyeglasses mustache and bushy eyebrows what clothes did he have on coat pants shoes did he have any weapons on this person who knows who wants to take a chance job officer okay I'll put a call into the precinct and you'll hear from us if any person of that description turns up foreign I think you're finally losing your grip hi Dad I'm your son Chris and this is my wife Mary Elizabeth we're really glad that you had us and we'll do our best to keep things going while you're gone and have a really nice vacation because you two certainly deserve it after oh right right yeah your plane leaves in a little while and we have a cab waiting outside and your bags are all packed and ready to go so why don't we just take off thing we'll take care of everything good job I'll take care of this shop everything will be just fine and then when you get back we'll get to know each other a lot better I don't know oh boy oh boy oh boy oh boy first come on have a good trip and take the flower goodbye have fun peace 36 years Mommy I think I'm losing my mind gone gone that's it that's awesome that's finished Murray tell the cabbie to turn around go back for God's sake I can't why not because we have to go to Bermuda Bermuda yeah yeah or else oh that's what never mind what or else just or else good it's not [Music] Murray we gotta go back shut up and enjoy yourself with those kids shut up okay we're going back you said we have to stay for three weeks around I know what I said but I can't stand it no more but if we go back now maybe something bad will happen thank you [Music] stay for one more Cha-Cha left no God damn it we leave right after the treasure hunt stop packing plumber's Paradise ruined well we got each other right ruined you coming in I can't why not I can't get too close to these colors and make me nauseous close your eyes I'll lead Murray look at this place I don't believe it oh [Music] Rowan ruin the Technicolor where's the stock ask your son my son your son you wish them honest hey Mom Dad how come you came back early if you wanted to surprise you with what a fire wow you both look really out of sight did you have a good time horrific where's my pipes gone I got rid of every one of them so we noticed cleaned out in a week it was fantastic we're getting some new things in tomorrow but we wanted to surprise you I'm surprised I also want my pipes how could you do this I don't think I understand we understand all right now get going but mom oh you can cut out that Mom stuff done I can explain get lost very quick just listen a minute you better do what your mommy says Sonny before I call a cop dance you're gonna listen Murray let them talk it's all over anyway what do we got to lose my mind that's what I mean what do we got to lose oh sure jokes now Tilda you are a very cruel person later Marie later let them talk okay you got two minutes quicker I wouldn't mind and then beat it well the day you left like a bunch of our friends came over and we painted everything we saw and some decorator came by and started to buy everything and we've been jammed every day since then and all our money's in the bank I've got post-dated checks for the next 18 months wait wait till tomorrow you'll see what I'm talking about what are you talking about post-dated checks who takes him first gated checks at business and now we got back orders for the next three years I'm gonna give you 24 hours to prove that what you said is true and if you're lying to me boy you're in a lot of trouble I'm telling you Dad they buying as fast as we painted get out of here well here comes your first customer you call again Mari they actually buy this stuff I don't believe it who's gonna buy pipes with colors well I think his air is adorable would you like me to wrap that up or would you like to wear at home Louis did more business in one day today okay then we did all the whole of last July in my whole life I never dreamed when you look at the business we did today [Music] okay ladies and gentlemen shut up because I got something to say Murray watch your mouth I agree Tilda this has been one hell of a couple of weeks but my mouth has got a mind of its own and this I can't change so quick go ahead you think maybe you could call me uh Papa or something dad I can't get used to Chris and Mary Elizabeth are stuff enough sure papa how about for me it's mama yes Mama mama she talks oh oh now we won't be able to shut her up look who's talking come on Murray tell them okay here's the deal we still don't understand how you got here and we don't want to know wait a minute Papa what wait I've been waiting my whole life all I got to show is emeralds come on Murray kill them look short and sweet I got here adoption papers now we make it nice and legal and that's the whole story and let's have it I'll get something I got to tell you okay you talk to me while I open the bottle it's kind of hard for me to say all right what time I'd say what is it say it go ahead short and sweets the best way okay well short and sweet we have to we have to go what go away go where go to the toilet go to sleep what kind of go oh a weekend yeah go away for good you're not making too much sense boy go where just away that's all I can tell you that's all there is you got a better job someplace right I'll show you goodbye answers I want answers all of a sudden you can't talk to your own father Marie calm down you'll only make things worse I'll show you worse Murray for God's sakes you walk out of here Sonny you don't come back Murray me goodbye mama Beat It goodbye good luck don't slam the door Murray Murray Murray [Music] shut up [Music] I'm crying [Music] foreign [Music] foreign [Music] [Music] hahaha that was uh perplexing uh but you know it's a short film and this was nominated for an Academy Award um I put a link on IMDb that was indeed the uh Duncan donut time to make a Donuts man at the beginning uh and I haven't had a chance to look up the other people but lots of great character actors I apologize for the uh slips of profanity that made it in I realize I don't have a way to kind of I don't have a dump switch like they have on uh um uh on radio stations um speaking of which I was on a radio station in Portland and I need to post that I'll post that on uh Facebook Maybe anyhow yes that was baffling uh speaking of baffling uh we have the toe tapping Tournament final coming up and some people are it's a really hard decision uh that people are experiencing with the two finalists but this is an opportunity to watch the two finalists the the deadline for voting is tonight at midnight and if you vote and you email me your votes then I will invite you to a secret AV Geeks after dark screening that we'll do that will not be on YouTube or any of the uh the main broadcast things it'll be something secret then only you get an invitation to you and the other people who voted so here is the two finalists uh first one is zip code song the second one is run for your life so we'll watch these real quick [Music] keep it all in your [Music] headphones [Music] and the lower cost fewer mistakes no time ever lost a lot less handling along the way [Music] [Music] thank you [Music] the devil today run for your life [Music] today you got a future no more pains [Music] you can't live much looser [Music] run for your life definitely some opinions uh in the votes uh some people have told me that there actually is The Swinging six which is the group that sings a zip code song there's actually an album out there somebody found it on discogs and some people are threatening to buy it which is great in my thrifting and record store looking I've never run across that record but I'm sure it's out there uh okay so yes email me at skip avgeeks.com with your votes the the deadline is tonight at midnight Eastern Standard Time and then tomorrow we'll announce the winner finalists um I don't know if some of you watched the Town footage Festival announced the Digital streaming they had like a little online party uh for um their chop and steel being available uh for streaming and uh we were on there and I was in Santa Barbara at a uh lab biology lab and um but anyways uh Joe from pound footage Festival said yeah so when are we going to have the 2023 uh event and I said well when you guys come down here dresses clowns and serve as Thanksgiving uh food and he's like Oh I thought we could do double or nothing I'm like nope no you need to come down and do this so they tried to to weasel their way out of uh the the last victory prize um and so we're holding them to it before we compete with the next four songs which I think are all strong uh regardless of comments I I think uh they all have something that make them great uh all right time to watch some more 16 millimeter films which is what we do here uh we watch old 60 millimeter films and this is uh tells us the difference between big and small enjoy [Music] [Applause] [Music] now it's my serve right right Jan hey Dad throw me a couple will ya okay now watch the shot [Music] here you are catch it a ping pong ball a baseball a basketball a beach ball and each one is a different size when we say one is small or big we are comparing sizes we often compare sizes comparing things helps us tell which is bigger or smaller and it's pretty easy to do when the things are all the same like dolls or dogs or the balls we saw it's easy to tell the size of the things we know are these four balls the same sizes as these four well all these are smaller how did we tell we compared the man's hand and the balls remember this ball how about this the girl's hand helped us see the size remember the baseball how about this one the boy's hand helped us see the size remember the basketball how about this one it's bigger a lot bigger comparing it to the boy helps us see how big it is remember the beach ball compare it to the woman then compare this ball with the man comparing with a person does give us an idea of size and it seems there's no end to what we call big or small a lot depends on who is looking and we aren't all the same size it depends what size you are when you compare we do that all the time hey Dad not so hard you put a Twist on it what's the matter wow you really have control how big are your hands that's it I win and I know why you're bigger than I am oh I'm not that much bigger let's see thank you you're big enough to look after him now I'll be right back small [Music] bigger biggest oh no now he's the biggest well as we said a lot depends on who is doing the looking and who is doing the comparing even if people are different sizes it still helps when we compare people to things how big this helps how big this helps comparing things to people helps tell the thing's size there's another thing to remember about size remember this looks very big here far away looks pretty small doesn't it this rocket is only a few feet from us this rocket is several miles from us and it's very very big [Music] so distance how close things are or how far they are also has to be remembered when we are deciding whether something is big or small we know that from a rocket we can get different views of our Earth as we move farther and farther away from it this is how the earth looks when we are twenty thousand miles away is this another photo of the Earth hope it's a picture of this bowling ball distance how close or how far affects how big or small something looks to us another bowling ball well let's see it's a marble much smaller than the bowling ball remember how far or how close makes a difference besides doesn't change but it may look smaller or bigger a telephone pole a pencil do they look the same size compared to the man we know the telephone pole is big the hand tells us that the pencil is small we've learned that comparing things with a person helps us tell size [Music] and it was a person's body that gave us another way of comparing foreign ago someone decided that the width of a man's thumb could be used for measuring small things it was called an inch and the idea spread and after a while everyone agreed that every inch would be the same size and in much the same way it was decided that a foot could be used for measuring larger things people's feet are different lengths but it was agreed that every foot used to measure things would be the same size [Music] and for measuring even larger things it was decided to use a length from the tip of a king's nose to the end of his finger and this length was called one yard [Music] a yard is made up of three feet a foot is made up of 12 inches every inch is the same length the inch is called a standard unit and every foot is the same length a foot is a standard unit too and so is a yard using a standard unit is a more exact way of telling how big or how small something is you'll see inches and feet and yards being used and sometimes you'll see other standard units being used this is a meter stick one meter is made up of 100 centimeters but any standard unit you use is a more exact way of telling how big or how small something is [Music] [Applause] foreign [Music] you are about to observe a minor incident and will be asked to report what you have observed you will be able to see but not to hear what is going on are you ready observe [Music] Pope Kip observes the world around him at the same time he interprets and makes assumptions about what he observes for example raised in one culture with one set of experiences he might assume that this animal is a sacred object raised in another culture he might assume that the animal is an edible object based upon these assumptions he might conclude either one that the animal is to be worshiped or two that the animal is to be slaughtered for eating we can make assumptions of our own about which conclusion Paul is likely to reach because he is now sales manager for a meat packing concern in relating to people Paul follows the same three-step process he observes interprets and makes assumptions and he reaches conclusions for a long time Paul has felt dissatisfied with salesman Frank Reilly now he reinforces the decision to let him go in the first step Paul reappraises the objective data he observes that Riley's sales figures have again fallen short of expectations he also observes Riley's habitual facial expression the compressed eyebrows the downward curve of the mouth so far all observation all facts in the second part of the process Paul plugs these data into his own memory experience system he's frowning again always scowling that always makes me uncomfortable I'm sure it has the same effect on others I know for a fact that people don't like to buy goods from someone with an unpleasant personality so thirdly he concludes that Riley cannot be a productive salesman and he is Justified in firing him I'm sorry things haven't worked out Riley what do you mean in his defense Riley May return Paul to Step One Again by offering additional data into consideration I think one of the main reasons our sales have dropped off is because Johnson House Packers are making a big Drive in my marketing area now they're undercutting Us in prices naturally some of my customers are taking advantage of the better deals but this will change Paul believes he is considering these possible facts objectively but again he goes to the Second Step assumption and interpretation well sure I expected him to come up with some excuse and the nasty way he said that he's implying that I don't understand pricing that the competition is putting something over on me and Paul reaches his conclusion Riley you're trying to blame me for your failure I never said anything about you you don't have to say it you implied it I'm sorry Riley you just don't fit the image we want in our salesman a week later Paul has a surprising phone conversation but you've always been one of our preferred customers I don't understand [Applause] right like he just wasn't getting the job done I don't like the way you treat me in my book Raleigh was the best meat salesman in the business not like a smiling glad having you sent here today Raleigh worried about my problems I can tell by looking at him that he took my business seriously the same rally but different interpretations and assertions different conclusions we are beginning to see that Paul pip like each of us lives in a world of assumptions is that bad no not at all it's absolutely necessary looked at objectively without assumptions this is only a red sign with white lettering but Paul observes that the letters spell the word stop and assumes that the sign was placed where it is for a purpose he concludes that he is supposed to stop his car these assumptions however unconsciously made are necessary if Paul is to reach the desired conclusion now let's change the circumstances suppose he is jogging and encounters the sign in the middle of a field objectively it's the same sign but to maintain the same assumptions and reach the same conclusion would be foolish many assumptions are shared by members of a society when Paul says fill it up he and the station attendant share an assumption about what that means no suppose the attendant was a literal-minded person incapable of making assumptions every customer might have to go through a conversation something like this fill it up Phil what up fill up my gasoline tank what do you want me to fill it up with eggnog what do you think we don't have eggnog please just fill up my gasoline tank with regular 91 octane gasoline from that pump over there if I do you'll have to pay for it I had assumed that was understood without the ability to make assumptions it would take endless time to do the simplest things on the other hand because our assumptive worlds differ reaction to identical data may vary widely as when Mrs pipp and Mrs Ronson visit the same medical office Mrs Ronson is the first to meet the new Young doctor come for a doctor I suppose so I don't suppose you've had much experience with my type of ailment I've seen a number of cases when you were an intern or just learning in some cases you know I I really think I would rather see the older doctor next Mrs pipp with the same initial observation you're very young for a doctor so it seems they give doctors better training these days than they used to in some cases [Applause] I imagine you know all the latest techniques and everything I think so I hope you're going to be my regular doctor going from observation to interpretation to conclusion may be an active process now I mustn't think badly of him just because he has a beard it's just a fashion my own nephew has whiskers and he's a nice boy so I'll just speak to that young man as though he were perfectly normal how are you fine hello I'm Mrs Pitt or the jump from observation to conclusion may be almost spontaneous uh four assumptions are often a distortion or simplification of the objective data sometimes the Distortion leads to wrong conclusions as when Paul finds a mistake in some figures and this is a typical build brusher mistake this time I'll face him with it these bid sheets are wrong we'd lose money what are you trying to do put us out of business I've never seen these before well I thought you made out all these bid sheets no and I don't work at putting this out of business either at other times Paul's inner process results in a correct conclusion well I just I just link more than my share of the low too much of me she's not the type to complain about her workload it's more likely a matter of pride I can guess what's really bugging her Gene you and Bill brush are do the same kind of work are you under the impression we pay him more don't you no you're exactly the same salary level he is oh well I guess if he's not complaining then I ought to be able to carry my share of the load how effective is Paul pip in communicating with other people it depends to some extent upon his ability to distinguish between objective observation and subjective interpretation let's see tell me this why aren't we receiving more orders on the new product because we're dealing with people who have no imagination they don't want to try anything new they're only interested in products that sell without any effort on their part well the survey we made indicates they're misinformed about the product I mean we're trying to sell it as a staple but most of our customers on the survey classified it as a luxury item the man gave Paul subjective interpretation which could lead him astray the woman offered somewhat more objective data which might suggest corrective action but there Remains the third factor of Paul's own inner processes surveys or bunk I never trust surveys I believe in gut reaction Bill's probably right they don't want to try anything new if Paul pip were more aware of the process in himself and in others he could be more effective in coping with it what about the rest of us when we're asked to report what we have observed do we do it or do we add interpretations assumptions and Fantasies judge for yourself weekdays Bill brusher is A well-dressed young executive but on Saturdays he skips shading puts on old clothes and works on his antique car needing a certain sized Bolt he dashes off to an auto parts store I don't have my wallet I left it at homo I'll just have to come on back only to discover he has left his wallet at home luckily Bill's wife is downtown shopping and he sees her hey sweetheart sweater honey you're greasy all right I came downtown to buy a bolt for the car and I left my wallet do you have ten dollars yes I hope nobody sees you down here dressed like that nobody cares don't spend all my check I'll try not to if you figured all this out or tried to you were guessing and interpreting rather than just observing as requested how would the report you wrote earlier stand up as testimony to what you actually saw looking at what you wrote can you now distinguish observation from interpretation from conclusion [Music] I was laughing out loud to read some of that um yeah so uh I'm looking at the microphone and the mute is not on um what I had said when I accidentally did not unmute myself was that this is about making hard decisions and I thought this would be related to the toe tapping tournament and some of the hard decisions people are emailing me about but oh my gosh that film was awesome I need to see if there's more in that series holy cow there's a couple of interesting films from the 70s that deal with what's called information processing which is basically um you know how you interact with other people and in in in the relationships and all that stuff so there's another really great one which is kind of hilarious um that I should find at some point but man that was that was really great uh so some of you um love this show and some of you were like what is going on so that's kind of the nature of Av Geeks right sometimes we don't know what's going to be 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