AV Geeks 16mm Lunch 9-24-2024

e e hi everybody this is Skip Alzheimer wel welcome to the a Geeks lunchtime streaming show where I'm at the archive uh and we're getting ready to watch some 16mm films but you probably hear in the background they are cutting down some trees which are right next to where I normally uh do my show next to the scanner so I have another scanner behind me but it's not um ah this this blue is driving me nuts um but the uh yeah so I just got back from Austin Texas and so I'm a little I'm not jet lag but it was it was a long travel day so anyways uh we are in this room uh doing a live streaming Show versus being in the other room uh because there's trees directly next to that room that are being cut down and uh so I figured today would be uh a day that we show films about trees uh some of these we've seen before some of them we haven't uh also based on the comments of what I was reading everybody thought I was dying or like was really sick or I don't know I mean I guess I was really tired when I recorded Monday show late on Sunday night um so I was fine and in fact I was just in like a massage chair in the relax mode and in the midst of that I was like oh no I haven't recorded Monday's show and I'm going to be traveling all day so that's why I looked the way I did anyways I am alive I well rested it's just there's a lot of Machinery behind me so let's go ahead and watch uh life on a dead tree uh because one of the trees that's being taken down a giant tree is essentially dead enjoy [Music] Tommy and his brother Dave have found an old dead tree in the woods near their home this is Tommy and this is Dave a dead tree like this one may be the home of many different kinds of plants and animals this little animal eats insects it often lives on or under an old tree like this where many insects may be easily found do you know what it is it's a lizard lizards are harmless but catching one isn't always easy they move quickly Tommy touches the scales that cover the lizard its skin feels dry and rough it's a fence lizard sometimes called a blue belly Dave puts it back on the tree wild animals should be returned to their homes Tommy sees something moving under the crumbly decayed wood in a crack in the old tree he calls Dave over to look what do you suppose it is Dave knows it's an insect do you know what kind of insect it's a beetle it hides in the decayed wood during the day at night it scurries about on its six legs to look for other insects to eat that was really weird I don't understand what just happened there um I hope that that didn't deafen anybody like I'm not sure let's see uh I think that this was um a download error I apologize for that uh let's learn about trees and their importance for when the first colonists settled in America over 300 years ago great forests such as this stretched in an almost unbroken expanse over much of the land except for prairies Great Plains and deserts from these forests the Pioneers Built Homes and Furniture wagons and fences since the early settler needed food and shelter he had no choice but to cut the trees and plow the soil many of those who came after exploited the forest resources using up or laying waste much of the natural growth fire which often followed this kind of logging practice destroyed the protective covering of humus on the ground rains eroded what was left of the top soil and Wasteland developed today the land and all living things suffer because of this negligence what kind of plant is a tree and why are trees so important to us to better understand their structure how they grow and the work they do we will change this picture of an oak into a drawing the roots not only anchor the plant in the ground but they also act as the trees water collecting mechanism in these time-lapse photographs you can watch the growth of a root tip and the millions of root hairs behind the tip as they push through the soil the root hairs absorb water and minerals used for the tree's life and growth a tree never stops growing until it dies the stem or trunk of the tree acts like a pipeline in the sapwood layers under the bark xylm tissues carry water from the roots to the leaves under this microscope xylm tubes look like this Flo tissues which contain tubes with Civ likee ends carry food materials dissolved in water downward from the leaves to the growing parts of the tree here magnified many times is floam tissue in a cross-section of the trunk or stem between bark and wood there is an actively growing area this appears as a ring of single cells called the cambium in this drawing you can see the cambium cells dividing and adding new xylm tissue which becomes wood and floam tissue which later becomes bark watch how the action of the cambium increases the thickness or diameter of the stem yet the single ring of living cells Remains the Same width each yearly layer of wood in a stem is usually so distinct that by counting the layers or rings you can tell the approximate age of the tree by studying the width of rings scientists May estimate climatic conditions that existed in the past in wet Seasons more growth takes place and the tree rings are wider than during dry seasons the only place we can actually witness growth in a tree is in the buds at the farthest tips of its stems in this time-lapse picture of a maple seedling can you see where the stem is growing it elongates only at the tip leaves act like factories and produce food for the tree with the help of sunlight the energy or power of the sun is used by the green chlorophyll in the leaf to combine carbon dioxide from the air with water from the soil this very complex chemical process results in sugars the trees's food oxygen is released into the air as a byproduct this complete process similar in all green plants is called photosynthesis most of the water that flows from the roots to the leaves is not used in photosynthesis it evaporates into the outer air through tiny openings in the underside of the leaf as seen in this cross-sectional drawing these are the same openings through which air can containing carbon dioxide enters the leaf and oxygen is given off a maple leaf has about 10,000 openings to the square in the leaves on just one large maple tree May release over 300 gallons of water on a summer's day without the oxygen released in the air by trees and other green plants animals could not live when water descends on trees as rain leaves break the impact of its cutting Force forest soil acting as a natural Reservoir collects the moisture and holds it like a sponge many living things could not exist without the shade moisture rich soil and protective shelter of afforded by Woodlands even a small tree lot supports a great variety of life there are two main types of trees one of these which is broadlea is represented by the Hickory and the maple most broadleaved or deciduous trees lose their leaves in bottom from trees such as these we obtain most of our Hardwoods the other type of tree which is usually Evergreen has narrow or needle-shaped leaves most of these bear their seeds in cones and for that reason are called conifers conifers which are usually soft Woods Supply us with much of our Timber although today we may not rely on trees in the same way as they did in colonial times the basic needs of shelter warmth and food are still present and there are many other uses modern science continues to develop more and more materials until today there are over 5,000 different products made from wood the film you are seeing is a cellulose product of wood it is estimated that our needs for Timber May double in the next 50 years how shall we plan to meet such demands we have already begun by selecting trees for cutting and by reforesting harvested land when necessary through tree farming about 64 million Acres of Farmland in the United States have trees as their crop our national forest system too will help to ensure future Timber supplies related to the new land conscience has come many new job opportunities for example these workers are collecting and classifying seeds from Superior trees from these seeds will come faster growing forms that will be thicker taller and straighter under good Forest management Timber cutting and New Forest growth are about [Music] inbalance the beauty of trees inspires us and their usefulness is never ending with our rapidly growing population forests are becoming increasingly important for recreation use by the year 2000 we will have almost 70% more people how can we keep up with our recreational needs unless we add to such facilities as our national and state parks and our new Wilderness Systems we can be optimistic about some of the things we are doing but are we doing enough only constant awareness of the necessity for conservation by enough people will guarantee us the forests we need now and for generations to come there I am all right so uh I think they're they've taken down the two trees on one side of the archive and I think they're going to start doing it on this side so um is what we're going to do is we're going to we're going to walk nobody barf so we're going to walk slowly to the other side of the archive all right let's going through the kitchen I'm going to set up here all right everybody okay anybody nauseous um so those two big trees are gone and I lament the loss of trees I love trees uh I think that they for the reasons shown in all these films they offer uh a great deal to our life and it's sad that we have to uh cut them down but um but uh unfortunately some trees get too old and um they will uh fall and take out things like uh our film scanner um so that's why uh we had this done today anyways so I've got uh another copy of uh life on a dead tree and I'll try to skip to where we uh were Roo interrupted [Music] enjoy what do you suppose it is Dave knows it's an insect do you know what kind of insect it's a beetle it hides in the decayed wood during the day at night it scurries about on its six legs to look for other insects to eat is there anything else that would live on an old dead tree like this Tommy's found something that puzzles him he calls his brother Tommy examines what he's found it's another insect most of you have seen this one before if you haven't seen it you've probably heard it chirping noisily on summer evenings it's a cricket like the beetle it hides in the dark places of the old tree during the daytime coming out at night to hunt for food Dave's found another animal hiding in the decayed wood it's a slug a relative of the garden snail during the daytime slugs may be found in dark damp places under rocks or old boards at night they come out to look for plants to eat the two large stocks on the slug's head have eyes at their tips the smaller stocks below are used for smelling but animals are not the only things that live on an old dead tree this hard smooth plant is called the fungus it grows in the old tree just as other plants grow in soil this is another fungus plant growing on the dead tree if you poke it Watch What Happens it's called a puff ball fungus plants like these and others too small to see help break down the wood of the old tree this is part of what we mean when we say that the old tree decays the decayed material will someday become a part of the soil where it will furnish food for other plants to grow what else lives on an old dead tree Tommy's found something he can name can you this insect doesn't really live on the old tree it's just visiting it's a ladybird Beetle the ladybird Beetle has a hard shell covering its back the shell is made of two wings covers that fold out of the ladyb bird's way when it wishes to fly there are still other animals that make their homes on an old tree like this to find them may take a lot of looking however underneath the piece of bark Dave shows Tommy an unusual animal in it's a tree salamander it looks like a lizard and like a lizard it eats insects a salamander is easy to recognize because its skin is smooth and without scales salamanders always have four toes on their front feet and five toes on their H feet what else may be found living underneath the bark of an old tree of course you know what these are these ants live in dead trees building and hollowing out tunnels in the wood when their home is Disturbed they Scurry around very quickly look at them closely notice that their bodies are divided into three parts like all insects they have six legs growing out of the middle body part on the ground in the dead leaves and grass along the side of the tree Tommy and Dave see something moving it's a gopher snake a harmless snake that helps Man by eating rats mice and other small animals the snake has laid some eggs they're about the size of a hen's egg with soft leathery shells inside the egg on the left a baby snake is struggling to free itself the baby inside the other egg has cut a slit and will slip out through it now Tommy and Dave have discovered something in the hollow end of the old tree it's an animal that has made its home there it has a bushy tail and a white stripe down its back do you know its name Tommy and Dave know they know too that an old dead tree like this may actually team with life if you can find the dead tree examine it closely it may be the home of many different kinds of plants and animals [Music] yeah I just couldn't let that not complete like I wanted the whole I wanted you to see the whole film cuz it's got this nice relaxing vibe to it uh it's made by the guy who made a um Skipper learns a lesson about the racist dog uh so it's really just got this nice feel to it and beautiful color so I felt like I had to show it too uh let's learn about uh trees and Men by men maybe women I don't I don't know um this is part of a collection that we've been getting online for uh the pringer archive enjoy [Music] from childhood days we've all of us been I've always wanted to visit the Pacific Northwest where nature in all her Grandeur has ever beckoned the lover of The Great Outdoors as we make our way into this region over Splendid highways which follow the paths blazed by the struggling Pioneers we realize that here is a natural playground of magnificent mountains alluring rivers of national parks and forests abounding with protected wildlife here we are impelled to pause to lift up our eyes to the Eternal Hills to draw deep inspiration the ever Flowing Wells of nature we are at once impressed by the vastness of magnificent stands of Virgin Timber we had heard of the great Lumber industry of the Northwest and of the important part which it plays in Furnishing the materials not only for our homes but also for an ever increasing variety of products to Foster new occupations and trade we'd also heard of the loggers celebrated picturesquely in song and story as mighty men who are said to swing their axes to eat to fight or to play with an equally roaring and Gusty abandon naturally we were curious about loggers here at the outset of our visit to the Timberlands of Washington we find a logger and he is a hearty man at his specialty he is Tops This artist who carves with a twoed axe owned like a razor is known as the high climber after the timber Cruisers have marked out an area to be cut certain few trees are selected which are left standing all through the logging operation it is the high climbers job to trim off the branches and top to make a spar to which tremendously strong cables will be attached the high climber has a lot of confidence in his rope the only thing which saves him from a 200 ft drop when the 60ft top of of the tree falls he left to hang on for dear life [Music] we were not in the forest area long before we began to hear the phrase Timber is a crop it struck us a bit odd at first because the word crop had denoted kneehigh things like alal and oats it was a little startling to swing our mind onto a crop which grows for centuries and grows hundreds of feet high but we found that trees like any other growing thing reach maturity and eventually Decay and die this tree looked pretty good standing there alongside other trees of equal size and age but its core was rotten and the wood remaining was not worth hauling to the mill it should have been harvested 100 years ago to be of best value for lumber here we find more Specialists a pair of fallers and incidentally you don't fa a tree you fall it or you're out of step with a lingo of the woods falling a tree which weighs perhaps 60 tons between other 60 ton trees with as little damage as possible does call for some figuring but it all seems very casual the fallers glance at the surroundings and at their tree and just go to it with little Ado maybe they have a secret sign language but I couldn't get it I heard no words spoken as to where to start the undercut or when to stop cutting and begin sawing but it all seemed to go through just like clockwork apparently at just the right second the fallers yank out their tools and dash to the nearest exit and away she goes with a Roar and a [Music] wallet at the steam skitter we heard more picturesque language of the woods down in the canyon choke ER Setters and hook tenders fastened the logs to the cables the whistle Punk gave the signal and up at the Landing skitter leverman Chasers and loaders completed the job of yarding the logs and loading them onto cars when you think that a location like this is perhaps a half mile higher than the headquarters camp and as much as 30 m away in a remote fold of the mountain slopes one could can realize the tough job of building railroads to reach the stands of Timber sometime if you want to ride on the crookedest railroads in the world visit the spur tracks which spread like a network through the timber country to extend far back into the Wilderness from these Heights the heavy loads wind always downward from the mountains to the Sea [Music] a [Music] here boom men sort the fur Hemlock Spruce and Cedar to be rafted to the Mills because several varieties grow together in the same forests it is Impractical to take out only the kind most in demand it's necessary to cut all varieties in a given area and by continuous research develop further uses for each species when a forest giant starts into the Sawmill we find that it's only the beginning of a vast number of processes from which our Timber emerges in a thousand different shapes sizes and forms just as chemists are finding new industrial uses for the farmers beans corn cotton and other crops likewise many of the best scientific minds are thinking of new ways to utilize more of the Timber with less waste only recently Hemlock was a stepchild among Western Lumbers now most of it goes to the pulp Mills to supply the paper and rayon Industries we already have compressed fuel made from Sawmill waste and it is now possible to use the smaller units of wood reformed with chemicals into molded shapes for panels tiles acoustic boards and finished materials of ever increasing variety [Music] Timber is a crop and good old mother nature takes care of the reeding the men and the management of the lumber industry are trying to Aid these natural process processes by leaving Big patches of trees in areas which they are logging especially on the tops or sides of mountains where winds will scatter seeds look among the stumps of any such area and you'll find in just a few seasons the sturdy little seedlings springing up often 50,000 to the acre that is why if fires can be kept out of the newly seated areas it is possible to cut no more lumber than grows each year how bountifully nature in the Northwest takes care of her crop making a natural Storehouse of enormous recurring wellth during an endless cycle of clouds and sunshine rain and snow storing up moisture for the whole year young seedlings can hardly help but grow look along any pretty stream or off the highway where in former years the loggers have hewed their Timber and you will find fur and Hemlock Cedar and Spruce thrusting their graceful tips up into the sunshine again and again the seasons pass over these growing trees and over the rich soil out of which our forests of tomorrow take root other seasons pass and once again straight Columns of Timber begin to form into fine stands of second growth like the Deep forests into which the first spot know [Music] w [Music] I hope I didn't have too much dead air there I was kind of looking at them move they have this giant crane that they're moving from one side of the yard to the other side of the yard um and I was like oh wait I'm doing a show um all right so thanks for bearing with me uh it's been a today's been kind of wild cuz I wasn't sure if uh there was going to be people actually cutting down the tree because it was raining earlier Etc so let's learn about trees for tomorrow enjoy [Music] when the first settlers arrived in this great country they had only a few uses for the vast forests they found here they built their log cabin homes with the trees they found constructed Furniture implements and utensils and they used wood for fuel not many ways of using wood but those few were vitally if they hadn't there wouldn't have been an America in the building of America wood played a mighty part it built our homes our factories it helped to build great railroads our vehicles of Transportation it built our ships ships of war and ships of Peace today the nation still Falls for timber in tremendous quantities and out of the forest it still comes to supply every Tre of every kind for thousands of uses trees to build the millions of homes required to house our expanding population trees to supply the great quantities of pulpwood for our great Pulp and Paper [Music] industry for our newspapers our magazines for the hundreds of uses to which paper is put trees fers and telephone poles for toothpicks and railroad ties for furniture musical instruments airplanes ships and [Music] clothing and trees as well for Plastics and chemical products why we depended on trees for the cellulose to make the film for this Motion Picture yes a lot of trees are needed to keep America well supplied with w for its thousands of uses will we have enough for the job will America's Timber Supply hold out or is Timber like other natural resources like minerals gold for instance when the miner takes minerals out of the ground they are gone for all time they never come back happily for tomorrow's Timber Supply the lumberman is not like the miner where the lumberman works he can can and will work for generations to come because the lumberman is like the farmer like the farmer harvesting his crop with the sure knowledge that in the future other crops will flourish in the same place he knows his Acres can again be Lush and full he manages it that way the farmer's wheat kernel begins as a Seedling it is kept from harm and when it stops growing it is ready for the Harvest just like wheat trees begin as seedlings given sunlight and room to grow they do grow every year just like any plant little trees become a little bigger careful management keeps them from harm and finally when they are mature they should be harvested or like any other crop they will vitality and become an easy prey of insects and disease yes if not when ready trees become overripe here is a striking example of an overripe Forest a tree crop practically dead useless because it was not harvested in time when Nature creates something and it is not utilized she lets life go out of it she allows it to die and yet trees like this one need never have been wasted instead of rotting away in the forest it might have served a useful purpose for generations to come it might have been a Schoolhouse it might have been a home or it might have been a place of worship fortunately today these things are clearly understood today from the Pacific Northwest all the way to the Southern Pine country wherever Timber grows the men in the Forest Industries know that trees need not be wasted in every part of the nation trees are grown as a crop cared for and harvested as a crop and today the Forest Industries are working to assure ample timber in the future because of modern Forest management Forest management a simple name for a complicated business Forest management knows the amazing fertility of good tree growing areas knows that the forest can replenish itself in certain areas this natural growth is scientifically aided by what is known as selective logging that means harvesting only mature trees taking out trees that interfere with the growth of others and taking out trees that are not healthy look at this one now the top is in very bad shape insects have attacked it it had better be Harvest it now before the damage spreads that's right put a marker on it mister so that when the loggers come around they'll know it's to be removed the little metal tag will tell them the whole story [Music] so much for that one now how about its neighbor perfectly healthy so we'll leave it there to grow some more and when the loggers have come and gone the stumps tell the story of selective logging the remaining trees and the young growth nearby tell the story of tomorrow's Timber crop in some locations and with other varieties of trees instead of selective logging an entirely different system assures a sustained yield here spread over 100 square miles blocks of seed trees have been left a splendid illustration of forest Management in the cut areas the trees have been completely harvested but the other trees remain untouched so that they may scatter their seed over the harvested land it quickly takes root and thrives because Nature has a terrific urge to grow trees such a tremendous urge that when the loggers pass this way again they'll find ready for another Harvest of brand new natural Forest Forest management not only helps nature grow trees it also takes over the vital job of fire protection 25% of all forest fires are started by careless smokers something to think about deliberate firing another 25% yes there are people who destroy precious Timber out of sheer maliciousness brush burning 14% not making sure that brush fires are actually out lightning 9% summer storms keep Forest Management on the alert and the remaining 27% come from a variety of causes but whatever the cause the fact remains that fire uncontrolled could nullify Management's plans for future Timber that is why in managed forests special effort is made to detect fires quickly at the first sign of smoke they are accurately located by instruments even at Great distances in managed forests every Blaze is scientifically fought there is no waiting to organize volunteers as the blaze gains Headway these firefighters just like City Firefighters are ready to move when the alarm comes in and although they may be out in the woods they've got the best equipment for their purposes that science can divide tricky Mountain Roads mean careful driving but it doesn't take long for these boys to go into action in fighting fires Forest management applies the principle that a small amount of water brought into play while the fire is still small is better than hundreds of frantic men called out when it's too late yes in managed forests scientific firefighting does the trick it's all a question of understanding what to do how much better this is than the old halfhazard way with flames frequently out of control the Forest Industries know very well the damage that an uncontrolled fire can cause dead waste mile after Mile and the public too must be made to know it must cooperate with the Forest Industries and with state and federal agencies it must learn from scenes like this to avoid carelessness when smoking or camping in wooded areas when trees are destroyed by fire or by anything else the Forest Industries take over another big job replacement in nurseries like this all over the country are millions of young seedlings destined to become part of tomorrow's Timber crop into the ground they [Music] [Applause] go row after row mile after mile of strong New Growth sitting in the sunlight putting on board [Music] feet skillful Forest management and bountiful nature working together American Forest land under proper management a vast self-perpetuating resource the only one of our basic resources that can replenish itself from the earth and from the air our forests have always been important literally they have built the nation but they are doubly important today for here before our eyes is much more than just plain Timber today we live on the threshold of a great age of wood an age in which science will create new and improved ways of using familiar materials because trees grow so abundantly because so much of our land is best suited for the growing of trees we may confidently expect the forest to furnish mankind with a variety of new and wonderful things undreamed of services even now we can see the beginnings plywood for pre-fabricated housing as Architects and Engineers anticipate many us es for it the aviation industry creates a plane entirely of [Music] plywood who knows perhaps planes built of Forest Products will be commonplace in the coming age of [Music] wood chemical science looks to America's Forest crop for an unfailing supply of raw materials upon which to perform its miracle of conversion the chemist has long realized the possibilities of the forest he has already produced from wood such familiar things as these form Malahide glycerin creosote acetone they are only a hint of what can be done for instance through the magic of the laboratory we have come pregnated wood a new and revolutionary product these sections of pipe originated in the forest perhaps someday they will replace less versatile metals and the chemist works with sawdust formerly thrown away considered waste from it comes wood flour and from wood flour can be made all sorts of plastics flashlights telephones objects of every sort wood in a fascinating new form readily molded lending itself to a thousand refinements in color and Des sign helping to make our everyday World easier and more pleasant to live in Wood helps to make such things as lenium molded bowling balls even Dynamite begins as growing timber technicians in the chemical laboratory discovered in the humble wood pile the ingredients for creating a major miracle [Music] after the logs have been broken up after they have been reduced to millions of little chips they are ready to be transformed into one of the most useful materials we know chemically digested in tremendous fats the onetime separate chips become masses of wood pulp and wood pulp properly treated becomes a substance with Untold possibilities cellulose it's called derived by chemistry from America's Timber crop cellulose the basis for America's far-flung paper industry and aside from all the familiar forms of paper here's cellulose doing its job in every home in America then there's a fascinating family of synthetics who' ever guess that trees could be made into stuff like this cellophane of course we're all familiar with it but how many of us realize that it has its beginning in the forest look at this handsome container sell cose and look at the contents for even Fabrics nowadays can stem from cellulose too a modern woman can have a complete wardrobe of forest products from stockings Shear as the finest silk to dress and hat and that's to say nothing of all the varied accessories gloves bag everything and very pretty too yes to supply the requirements of today and luxuries tomorrow science looks to the forest and when you ask can America's Timber Supply hold out is there enough timber in America can we grow enough trees in the West in the South and everywhere else Forest management answers yes so keep them coming these billions and billions of feet of Timber that the nation needs our supply can hold out the because where trees have been harvested new forests are springing up everywhere new seedlings reach for the Sun as Forest Industries watch over them before our eyes the miracle of management is taking place among the stumps of the old crop are rising the planned forests of the future the forests of the future managed forests Rich crops of Timber Timber vital now and it will be even more vital in the great age of wood that is just ahead Forest management American Enterprise watches over it and leaves us with a solemn but thrilling pledge a few simple words yet they hold the promise of happiness and prosperity for the generations of Americans that are to come Timber today freeze for what happened it just stopped um I have no idea what he was going to say I you can get an idea of what he was going to say uh because the name of the film is trees for tomorrow and um yeah so it's true uh the vast majority of the films in the avgeeks archive are made from cellulose acetate which is wood fiber and uh because of the chemical process uh basically that cellulose acetate breaks down uh it makes acetic acid which is a vinegar smell so it's all very organic chemistry is and prior to that was diacetate uh which is also cellulose and prior to that was nitrate cellulose which was um was that was just the effective uh inexpensive chemistry to make a clear base for the film so light could shinen through it and then Emulsion which is kind of a gel of Goo that has silver in it and other chemicals that get exposed and that's where your graphic information your visual information is stored in that goo what we call Emulsion oh boy what a day today it's nuts I'm happy to be back in Raleigh in the archive uh Austin was really hot and uh I love it was beautiful there we actually took time and actually went to San Marcos and floated down a river for about an hour a very very very cold River uh and I recommend it cuz it's like a little Park little city park there that you can basically park your car you can rent inner tubes from the Lion's Club and then make your way down the river and then walk back um through a park it's really uh was quite amazing and um so that was what we did then we stepped on an airplane and flew for many hours to get back to Raleigh but uh thanks so much for tuning in today tomorrow things should be back to normal uh there won't be loud chainsaws and booming sounds Etc we should be able to show you some live films that we scan on the the scanner but if you like what you saw please hit the thumbs up Jeremy donated some money via the super thanks button so thank you Jeremy but you can also go to ko-fi.com avgeeks or patreon.com avgeeks those are great ways to support us um one of the things I think I'm going to start doing is trying to make a campaign so that we can get a continual amount of money just to pay for the storage units right now right now I think we're making roughly $800 which which is amazing and we appreciate that but if we could bump that up to support the um $1,700 like it's about half of what we need uh in storage units basically storing the films keeping them safe and climate controlled until we can build something on site uh and tearing taking down the trees is part of that getting the renovation going so um anyways uh that's that's where the money is is going to be spent we're not going to spend it on coffee um we will continue drink coffee because that is what we need to operate on a day-to-day basis but we will pay for that ourselves if you can help us pay for storage units and we'll break down the coughs and maybe I'll even show you some storage units we'll do some uh field trips to some of these places um but thank you so much for tuning in I very much appreciate we I had a great show in Austin and um it was a lot of fun but I also love you guys and I love showing stuff to you so see you tomorrow everybody take care