AV Geeks 16mm Lunch 9-20-2022

All right. All right. [laughter] All that cattiness. I mean, 1982 was a very awkward time. I mean, I thought it was just me in high school, but turns out it was awkward for everybody in the in the grand history of fashion and uh all that. And um so that had a soundtrack, but it was all '8s music and it would have brought the hammer down so quickly, so I uh basically opted not to have the music. Um, but anyways, I'm Skip Alzheimer and welcome to the AV Geeks Lunchtime streaming show where we watch interesting cultural artifacts that happen to be captured on 16 millimeter film. Um, some of them are from the AV Geeks archive. Uh, that one was from a fellow collector uh based in uh Massachusetts who um I think he got that on eBay and shared it with me and I was like this is awesome. So, um I'm happy to share it with you. Um hopefully I didn't give too many fashion flashbacks, but it uh it showed that um yeah, awkward time. Awkward time. But I know what you're asking having seen that um what is winter like in the Arctic borderlands? Well, thankfully Cornet has uh done a film that tells us all about it. Enjoy. [music] [music] [music] It is autumn in the Canadian province of Manitoba. Here, [music] far from towns and cities, is a region that has scarcely been changed by man. This is the northern limit of trees, the borderlands of the Arctic. Here, the growing season is short and the winter is long and cold. Although the climate is severe, the region is not lifeless. We are going to see some of the different forms of life, both plant and animal, that have become adapted to this unusual environment. The region we are investigating is near Hudson Bay, about 2,000 mi north of the United States. It is part of the borderlands between the northern forests and the Arctic Baron. The principal town here is Churchill on Hudson Bay. Scattered along the rivers of this region are small villages. Most of the people here are Indians who long ago worked out a pattern of living suited to this far north country. Their main occupation is still hunting, fishing, and trapping. Indian families, including the children, come to the trading post in the village to get supplies for the long hard winter. In this far northern land, all living things, plants and animals, including land man, must be well adapted to the unfavorable climate in order to live. White men have also settled in the region. Many of them live in isolated caverns and make their living by trapping furbearing animals. From these come the hides or pelts which the trapper sells. Sled dogs are important to the trapper success. They are called huskys and are used to pull the trapper sled in the winter. Strong and intelligent, the husky is one of man's best friends in the far north. Close to the dog kennels and to the cabins of the trappers, there are many other living things that make their homes in this arctic borderland. Here, perched on the cabin roof, is a grouse. About the size of a small chicken, the grouse is a source of food for man and meat- eatating animals. Another kind of grouse is the tarmaggan, which remains in this region all year round. In summer, the color of the tarmaggan is brown, but now in late fall, it is turning white. By winter, the plumage will be completely white to match the color of the snow. This hawk, a swift bird of prey, will eat a grouse, tarmaggan, or any other small animal it can kill. Meat eatating birds such as the hawk and this northern shrike often remain in the far north all winter, but most of the birds such as this small hairy woodpecker and this pine finch are getting ready to migrate to the south as the warm lingering autumn comes to an end. Already the Canada geese are leaving the Hudson Bay region and flying south. A sure sign that the long cold winter is on the way. We have seen some of the many different things that live in the forest zone on the border of the Arctic. North of this zone where trees are sparse are the baron lands, the treeless tundra that stretches for miles in every direction. The tundra itself is covered with a living blanket of mosses, lychans, berries, herbs, and other small plants, which are a food supply for many animals. The tundra is the home of one of the most common animals of the Arctic, the caribou. These caribou have just come down from the open tundra and are moving south into the borderland forest. A species of reindeer, they are the most important animals in this region. Both Indians and white men depend on caribou meat as one of their main foods. The hides of these big animals are also used to make warm clothing. The caribou migration, which is rarely photographed, begins in late fall. The animals move in great herds from the barren tundra of the Arctic down to the borderland forests of the Churchill region and farther south to the woodlands. Maintaining a steady pace all day and resting at night, they travel in groups that may vary in number from a few to a hundred or more. The migration of the caribou is another sign that winter is coming. Suddenly, the freeze up is here and winter has arrived. On the riverbanks, the trees are covered with a coating of ice called rhyme frost. This is formed when cloudy or foggy atmosphere is suddenly cooled. A temperature drop of 40° in one day is not unusual in this region. A nearby lake now frozen over offers an easy path for the last of the migrating caribou. Equipped with broad hoops which have sharp edges, the caribou can walk and even run on the smoothest ice. Another example of the adaptation of animals to their environment. In December, the caribou shed their antlers. New antlers will grow again in the spring. The caribou's big horns and sharp hoofs are weapons of defense against enemies. The skeleton of a caribou killed by wolves is a vivid reminder of the dayby-day struggle for existence. That struggle for existence affects all the living things in this region. The small stunted trees remind us that living is difficult in this borderland of the Arctic, where the average mid-inter temperature is 22° below zero. The north wind brings the worst weather of all, a blizzard. The landscape is covered with billows of snow as the blizzard howls through the day and on into the night. The morning after the blizzard dawns clear and bright. Everywhere the deep snow lies in gleaming white drifts. The trapper's cabin is almost covered, but now that the wind and snow have stopped, signs of life are reappearing. A snow bunting is busily searching for food. A species of finch, the snow bunting breeds in the Arctic. It seems well adapted to the rigorous life of the far north and is often called the snowbird or snowflake. Here are the tracks of some birds we have seen once before. Do you recognize them now in their winter plumage? They are tarmaggan. These birds, you remember, were brown in the fall. Now completely white, they are a striking example of protective coloration. They blend so well with their snowy background that they are almost invisible. This remarkable example of camouflage illustrates again the way in which living things are adapted to their environment. At the cabin, preparations are being made to go out to the traps. The huskys are excited. Of course, they know they're going to pull the trapper sled, and they're eager to get out and follow the trail. A thick coat of hair and well- padded feet make it possible for the husky to withstand the coldest weather of a northern winter. The trapper too wears a warm parka of caribou hide and warm foot gear of wool socks, felt inner shoes and moosehide outer shoes. Thus man adapts himself to the cold. Now the harnesses are checked and the dog team is ready for the long journey. A trapper often depends on his dogs to find the way to the traps, for they have an excellent sense of direction, even though the blizzard has covered everything with deep snow. Among the many furbearing animals which trappers seek, is the red fox. This cunning animal has become adapted to almost every kind of environment in the United States and Canada. Walking along on his snowshoes, the trapper is always on the alert for tracks in the snow. Here are the tracks of another furbearing animal that the trapper recognizes at once. There is no doubt about it. These peculiar slide marks, which look like the trail left by a small sled, are made by the playful Canadian otter sliding along in the snow. Canadian otter live mainly on fish, frogs, and crayfish, and so they are usually found near a stream or lake. Although rather clumsy on land, they are very much at home in the water. Often they will play for hours diving and swimming. A thick coat of fur and a layer of body fat protect them from the cold, icy water. And so the otter, like the other living things we have seen, illustrates adaptation to a particular environment. Such an environment, you remember, is the Churchill region of Manitoba, a cold and sparsely settled area at the very edge of the great barren lands of the far north. Here, all living things, plants and animals, including man, must meet the problems of living on the borderland of the Arctic. [music] Uh, what happened? It just kind of ended. Um, oh, I see what I did wrong. Oh, I get it. I looked at the wrong time and so I sometimes I set a timer if I'm walking away and I was looking at the wrong time. So, there's there you go. Some of you might have noticed this shirt. Uh, this was my brother-in-law got this for me. This is a shirt woot. Uh, and this is when I was collecting um shirts that were related to monsters that were made out of film. Monster filmish things. Not not monster movies or movie monsters, but monsters that are made out of film. This often times this is uh how I feel sometimes. the overwhelming uh the the idea that a um a monster made out of film will strangle me every once in a while. I have that feeling, but uh caffeine helps me get over that. So, you can buy us coffee at kofi.com/avgeeks to wipe away those anxious feelings uh that I will be strangled by film unsuspectingly. Um, Canada had a satellite. It was called uh Al A Alueta. Is that right? I might be mispronouncing that. Uh, but here's a film that documents it. Enjoy. Man is finding new ways of probing the cosmic unknown. [music] Around Earth, tenuous matter forms great spheres in space. 60 mi up, the ionosphere begins, stretching 200 m or more, a region of electrically charged particles formed by radiation from outer space. A region important in world communications because radio waves which do not follow the curve of the earth can be reflected from the ionosphere. But sometimes great solar storms disturb the region. Radio signals fade and disappear. To forecast such turbulence, sounding stations around the world send constant signals into various layers of the ionosphere and record the echo. But these ionos cannot probe beyond the layer of greatest electron density and more information is needed from above. In 1958, a program of topside sounding is conceived by the Defense Research Board of Canada and the National Aeronautics and Space Administration of the United States. NASA Canada has a special interest in the project because radio blackout is most frequent in the north polar regions and so DRB undertakes to build a satellite for the sounding work begins in 1959. Design and construction of the spacecraft to be called Alawette the lark are put in the hands of a group of young engineers men like John Maher and Colin Franklin of DRB. The USA will launch it. The plan is to launch the satellite from California into polar orbit. The vehicle is a two-stage rocket, Thor Agina B. The Thor burns until final velocity is reached. Then explosive charges release the Aena and spacecraft and Aena's engine ignites. In the thin upper air, friction is slight. The protecting shroud is ejected. At cutoff, Aena is coasting. 48 minutes later, it reaches orbital altitude over Madagascar. After a final boost in orbit, a spring separates the satellite. As it spins, long antennas are driven out. 1 hour after liftoff, the new satellite is sweeping around a polar orbit 630 mi above the Earth. It will circle the globe every 105 minutes for centuries, transmitting signals to telemetry stations for at least one year of research. As the sounder moves into range, a command is sent out, and the long antennas transmit a pulseed radio frequency signal to the ionosphere below. At the same time, the pulses are put on a very high frequency signal that will pierce the ionosphere. The sounding signal is reflected and the echo received by the satellite is transmitted to the ground. The time lag about 1/100th of a second giving the height of the ionosphere, thus transmitting a continuous signal pulse and echoes 60 times a second. The satellite reports on the top profile of the ionosphere hour by hour to telemetry stations around the globe. At the same time, it measures three other phenomena. Radio noise due to rays from cosmic space, whistlers or radio signals caused by lightning which move along the Earth's magnetic field and trapped particles, one of the causes of ionization in the ionosphere. Since there is no precedent for the topside sounder, rocket testing of the antenna system developed by the Canadians is an important preliminary. From Wallops Island, Virginia, rockets carrying the newly designed equipment are launched into the upper atmosphere. Signals that come back prove the system is definitely feasible. At DRB's telecommunications establishment near Ottawa, a structural model, a prototype, and two identical flight models are built. Two half shell spinnings form the skin of the aluminum spacecraft. The entire load is supported by a core. The central structure holds the antennas when stored and the batteries. Platforms on each side carry the transistorized sounder and the three other experiments. Standby units are provided to be switched on in case of a failure in space. It's a close fit. Power for the instruments is provided by 6,500 solar cells on the shell which converts sunlight into electricity to charge the batteries. Inside temperature is maintained by polished aluminum end caps. Of unique new design are the long sounding antennas of thin spring steel which form a tube with an overlapping open seam. During launch, they will be wound on drums as flat strips like a carpenters's tape rule. Canadian industry contributed to the project by developing and building a number of important components. The prototype is given a centrifugal test simulating the vertical thrust to be experienced by the spacecraft during launch. Performance of the telemetry equipment monitored during test is completely satisfactory. A spin test simulates conditions as the satellite spinning at 120 RPM will be ejected into orbit. As the sounding antennas unwind, the spacecraft slows to its final speed, 1 1/2 RPM. Because of Earth's gravity, the antennas can be extended only 9 ft without support, but the test shows smooth operation so far. Next comes a full extension test. An electric motor drives the antennas out. Because of gravity, they must be supported. To conserve power, antennas should be half the wavelength transmitted. In this case, a length never before attempted in a spacecraft. The design works perfectly. The span is 150 ft from tip to tip. At another DRB research center near Quebec, performance is tested in a vacuum chamber simulating conditions in space. Unknown factors may arise. Materials may sublimate at low pressure. Hundreds of wires from the instruments permit the designers to check performance during test. Air is pumped out of the chamber and an artificial sun shines through a port. To provide illumination evenly to all the cells, the [music] satellite spins slowly as in space. The spheroid shape serves two purposes. easy access to electronic equipment and secondly illumination of a constant percentage of the surface as the spheroid tilts. Current generated by the solar cells is checked and housekeeping data such as temperature in various parts of the spacecraft is observed. At Gddard Space Flight Center near Washington, NASA provides test facilities not available in Canada. Here, shining satellites in various stages of development are joined by Aloet. Like a giant automobile wheel, the satellite must be balanced. At full speed, the amount of imbalance is measured and correcting weights are added later. Although the spacecraft weighs 320 lb, less than 2 lb is needed for balance because of careful calculation during design. The highly sensitive solar cells, the elements most likely to be damaged by vibration, are checked with simulated sunlight after every mechanical test. Finally, the Aloet is mounted on a shake table, which sets up vibration like that experienced during launch. The sounding antennas are checked before the test, which is one of the most severe the spacecraft will undergo. Measurements of the vibration applied and resultant vibration in the satellite show that no serious resonance will develop. Housekeeping data checks show solar cells, batteries, and other components all performing normally. Alowette passes with flying colors. Protecting plates are again placed over the delicate solar cells for the final move. As the months of tedious testing draw to a close, after 2 years of design, construction, and testing, Alawette flies across the continent to Vandenberg Air Force Base in California. A conventional turborop aircraft of the RCAF carries the bird of space that soon will soar imponderous. Alone, the little sphere will penetrate the intangible mathematics of the cosmos. Yet in the crowded environment of Earth, its sensitivity must be protected. There remains 6 weeks of final testing. The Thor Aena B rocket waits in its 150 ft gantry to carry one of the most complex satellites yet put into orbit. Alowette is seated on the spring that will separate it from the rocket. The shroud that will protect it from frictional heat in the atmosphere during launch is closed. The press enjoy the free tradition of science. DRB's Dr. John Chapman draws attention to the flags of the cooperating nations. Aloet's investigation of the upper atmosphere makes Canada a leader among the nations in space research for purposes of peace. [music] 12 hours before liftoff, [music] the scientists responsible assembled in the mission direction center for the countdown. Keith Brown of DRB is mission director. Day spins into night over the Pacific coast. NASA's Dr. Dryden and Dr. Zimmerman of DRB watch [music] and wait. Fuel counter to zero. Fuel counter to zero. T propulsion engineer. Propulsion engineer. TV ready. TVs are ready. INF. INF here. Place all three position switches off. All three position switches are off. 19. Go ahead. Check 19. A B mark. It will be T minus. Converter 4 alone was on on battery four 9 and NRC operation is normal for this phase of the launch check and E the beacon is - 65 spacecraft temperatures are within tolerance 60 seconds to an hour we'll be picking up the thermal [music] pump spacecraft launch conductor are you ready 6 5 4 3 Two, one, lift off, south across Antarctica, and north across Africa. [music] toward the north pole region. [music] [music] From beyond the imperceptible surface of Earth's atmosphere, signals come to Resolute, one of the 13 telemetry stations around the globe which record Alawette's observations. Signals in the language of the stars, observed, recorded, and translated into a language understood by scientists who speak the many tongues of men. [music] All right, back. [laughter] Um, yeah, that was it was kind of cool. The music was actually pretty good, I think. Um, NASA and space related films from that time period, that 60s time period, are are pretty cool. I I really uh kind of dig them. Uh, let's see, what else have we got for you coming up here? Um, yeah, we'll show this one. Um what's interesting is so a bunch of educational films that we watch um but made by different companies um different companies tend to talk about certain subjects more than others. And one of the things I realized is that Coronet never really talked about sex. Um it kind of hints at it with some of the the films on going steady. Um, but you don't really get a sense of like a discussion about sex. Whereas Encyclopedia Bratannica has it and they actually have films about venerial disease. Uh, Centron certainly talks about it. Um, other uh, film companies do, but but I never really found one with Cornet until recently when we scanned this film. What About Sex? So, this is black and white and it has a vibe. I don't know if I've shown the game on here, that wonderful Canadian film about uh sex, which has the coolest teenagers ever. Um, but this has that vibe. And it might be just because that was how they shot films with teenagers back then. But here, here we go. Enjoy. Hello. This is such a lonely part of the river. Not for me. Why? Oh, the river here. It's too active to be lonely. M. It's nice and quiet here. Don't you ever get lonely? Sure. When? Well, when I'm with older people, they think they know too much. Well, I don't know. I think they mean well, maybe. I only wish they'd listen more often, especially mom and dad. How can they? They think they need to talk all the time. Ouch. What's wrong? Oh, this tree. I got a splinter. Let's see. Go easy. Hold still now. How bad is it? Nothing critical. Can I operate? I mean, I've got nails like scalpels. You mean without an anesthetic? Sorry. No anesthetic for fever blisters or splinters. That's impressive. Don't despair. It'll be as painless as drug sleep. Besides, my skill for extracting splinters from soft young hands is legendary. You don't have a very doctorly look about you, doctor. Looks can be deceiving, ma'am. Now, just close your eyes and think painless bars. Well, as long as you're professional about it. Hold still now. Is it out? Hey, easy. Okay, that was quite an operation. I always like to put my heart in my words. You certainly have an awful lot of hearts, doctor. Yeah, I like Why are we so embarrassed of a little bit of passion? Why? Because we're we're so young. We're old enough. We're not kids anymore. I know. Then why so embarrassed? Because I Because we aren't experienced enough. Because we think anything more than holding hands is dirty, Derek. Well, I do. I feel guilt showing any affection toward you. Derek, don't. Honey, I don't want to hurt you, but I haven't thought why it's for nerves. Don't you understand? I understand. When I feel deeply, I've got to do more than squeeze your hand. Well, I've got to make something natural of it. I'm sorry, but I'm not ready for a lot of sex yet. You know that. Okay, so we're not going to jump into bed. That's not what I'm talking about. What are you talking about? Well, I have physical feelings about you I need to express. You choke them off. Makes me feel unnatural. You know, guilty all the time. What am I supposed to do? Give into every passion that hits you? No. I've got to be true to what I feel is right, too. You wouldn't respect me if I didn't. Well, it's back to our handholding morality again, though. Please, Derek, don't be cynical of my feelings. Okay. What's wrong? We used to agree on everything. We could share things together. Why isn't it that way anymore? I don't know. Maybe I love you differently then. I don't understand. I can't explain it really. I suppose Well, at first we were just two people getting to know each other. Now, now I've got biology to worry about. Oh, well, at times you make me feel like a brute. You You're holding me off at arms length like you wanted me on a leash. I don't mean to. I know you don't mean to, but that's the way you make me feel. Derek, I'm sorry. I didn't. Didn't what? Didn't mean to hurt you. You're fine. Just darn splinter. That's strange. I thought my doctor was okay. You're a bad doctor. Yeah, I can believe that. No bedside manner. There you go. Tease him again. Maybe we do tease too much about sex. Maybe Derek's right. We should be more natural about it. Yet, well, you've got to be true to yourself, to what you want to make out of your life. Why can't she understand me? I only went to hold her to say things without a lot of embarrassment. How much embarrassment goes on between couples over sex? I mean, is everyone so natural about it? It's like a reflex. Ah, sweet reflex. Yeah, that everybody worries about. Let's face it, Derek. Sex is a national embarrassment. Then even adults must be as frustrated and embarrassed about it as we are. You said it, man. Yeah. What do you think, Mr. Jordan? Yeah. I I don't know. I guess I can only speak for myself, but after 5 years of marriage, well, at times I still feel embarrassed about it. Why? Oh, I suppose it's a problem of being able to relate to another person. If you'll pardon the punning, it's as naked as one person can get with another. And a lot of people just can't stand the exposure. Why? I don't know. Sex, like any other commitment, makes us vulnerable. And when we become vulnerable, we become anxious and therefore fearful or embarrassed. Does that make any sense? Yeah, son. Then you're saying you can't have good sex without a good relationship. Can I ask you what you mean by good sex? Well, yeah. Tell us about it, ma'am. Well, any sex that leaves the feeling that you haven't betrayed yourself or the girl. Then you see sex, good sex, as a satisfying psychological encounter. Well, yeah. What do I mean when I say satisfying psychological encounter? Oh, that sex isn't all chemistry. that two people in love well have complex lives to satisfy as well as their bodies. That sounds like textbook sex to me. You tell them, Marv. How would you define the encounter, Marv? You mean having sex? Yes. Well, let's see. For one thing, it separates the men from the boys. How is that? Yeah. Well, it's something we've got to express our well, our manhood. That says it, Barb. I wonder too if it's not something we have to express our humanness. Our what? Our humanness. You know, our total self, the whole man. Man, that sounds like an awful lot of sex to me. [laughter] Greg, would you care to develop this a little more? Well, I think when I talk about humanness, I mean giving ourselves in the deepest level we can. In other words, you don't hold anything back. So, with sex, if both of you are totally with it, it's a very human experience. Has anybody else got any thoughts on this? Are you equating in some way what is natural and what is human? I don't know. What makes any form of communication meaningful and human is the depth of involvement between the two people. How natural this is would depend on the society. I guess then what you might define as a very human experience. The society might define as unnatural. That is something you feel guilty about like sex outside of marriage. Yeah, I guess you could say that. What does a person do if he wants to be human about sex in our society? If I could sit cross-legged and knew the answer to that question, I'd be the spiritual leader of millions. Don't be so modest, Craig. Yeah, be wise instead of otherwise. Sorry, I'm no wise guy. I've got a question. What's that, Marv? I'd like to know just how much thinking goes on during the heat of the struggle. I mean, it seems to me you worry about the action first, then all these questions. Marv's right. All this mumbo jumbo comes in after the action. Don't you think one of the reasons we're talking is to give the heat of the struggle, as you say, more depth of meaning? Why clutter it with meaning? So, the act of loving becomes a human act, not an animal one. Man, the act of loving is a human act. I won't argue with you on that. What kind of human meaning do you give it then? I don't know. It's a man and a woman at their best, that's all. You don't have to be told about it. It just happens. In fact, when it stops happening, they might as well plow you under. Judy goes good with these wheels. She adds a little brass to the style. Yeah, baby. Together with like a twohorn band. What's he smiling about? He's probably thinking about all the girls he got with his car. Is that all he means to me? A flashy ride around town. That's all you need is more publicity. Another guy who doesn't respect you. Why isn't it my luck to fall for a guy who still rides a bicycle? Let's get outside and do some work. I feel safer inside. What are you trying to do? French me? What's the radio for? Because I don't want to talk. Judy. Judy. Turn that off. For crying out loud, what's wrong? You. Me? Yes. Everything I say, you turn into a dirty joke. Oh, come on. What kind of prude are you anyway? What kind, baby? All your sex makes me feel cheap. Like like dirt under your fingernails. Oh, bull. Come on, baby. What gives? Judy, why don't you give me some selfrespect? Respect all you want. Stop it, man. You've really got yourself worked up. What gives? Why don't you go finish washing off a car? Not with your flashing knives at me. Tell me, what is it? I'm tired of feeling cheap, Laura. Who says you're cheap? You do. A come on. No, you don't respect me like a nice girl. Who cares anything about nice girls? Thanks. What do you want from me anyhow? You know what I am? No, I don't. What are you? I'm a guy who gets what he wants. Well, the girl pays the price, huh? As long as she wants that way. Yeah. Well, I don't. Okay. How do you want it then? I want to respect myself. Well, what's the trouble? I want you to have some self-respect, too. Me? Yes, you. Look, you're not my conscience. So, let's cut it. No, Mark. Do you respect yourself? Ah, you're too full of questions. No, look at yourself. What are you? I don't know. What am I? Well, Marv, you're Yeah. Yeah. What am I, Marv? I don't know what you are. Yeah, you do. You seem to know all about me. Well, tell me, baby. Respect, bull. What you need is style. Without it, you're dead, man. Let the proofs have the respect. That's all they got. Don't be angry, Mark. Please. Well, quit giving me all this cheap jazz about respectability. Just don't be angry. You don't have to tell me about the prudes. They don't hurt this guy anymore. The way I see it, they have their morality, and I have mine. Okay. Okay. I've been cut down so many times I don't bleed anymore. And I've got the scars to prove it, too. But it makes you tough. Without it, you're nothing in this world. I know. Tough and sassy. That's the name of the style. You know, you surprise me, Mara. How? I thought you were going to say tough and sexy. Yeah. Hey, where you going? I'll go finish washing off your car. You don't know what you're missing in here. Oh, yes I do. I don't know. I think people talk too much. It happens every time a girl goes out with a guy. Too many people worry about your private life. You mean who you go out with? Yeah. I'm no angel, but I don't deserve half of what people say about me. I don't think you have that kind of reputation, Judy. People have a need to talk, that's all. We'll say she's running after the guy or he's just taking her out because he knows what he can get. I know what they say. But what if the girl loves the guy? Should people make something cheap and dishonest out of it? Are you saying when a girl falls in love with a guy that she's ready for sex? You mean going all the way? Yes. That would depend on the people, of course. What's right for me isn't necessarily right for anyone else. I will say though, a girl worries about sex more than a guy does. You mean the girl pays the price while the guy has the fun, huh? Yeah. With pills and stuff, it doesn't have to be that way anymore. I don't know. Does birth control really change anything? You've still got the people to worry about. I mean, the black and white of the matter, what's right and wrong? Yeah, but society's changing so fast, no one knows what that black and white is anymore. So that makes everything you do right, huh? No, I didn't mean that. What did you mean? We can't trust society as we once did. A few years ago, if society said that this or that was bad and you did it, you felt guilty about it. Now we feel guilty if we don't listen to ourselves. That's too much like anarchy. I don't think we've come to that yet. I don't either. There are certain things that still have meaning. You know, the family, the church, the school. Most of us still believe in these things. Okay, but what about those who don't think they do? For me anyway, it's bankrupt. Their solutions can't hold my world together anymore. How do you hold your world together then? With my own meaning. I know that sounds scary, and it is, but there's just so much selfdeception in us all. Do you think we'll ever get to the place where we can disregard everybody else's judgment but our own? I don't know. Being responsible for your own life is a frightening thing. I can agree with that. You get involved once and you know I mean suddenly your whole life becomes your responsibility. You find yourself with a crisis and and a thousand questions. I did anyway. What kind of questions, Susan? Oh, like what does it mean? What did it do for me? Oh, anyway, I guess because I kept asking questions, I realized I I wasn't ready for that kind of experience. wasn't something I was too willing to admit either. When you're our age, you know, you want to think you're ready for everything. Life, love, the whole works. When do you think you'll be ready for love? You know, the real thing. I don't know. When I know myself better. Maybe when I can be more honest with myself. No more Hollywood attitudes about love. Maybe that's why Greg is so important to me now. He tries to help me be more honest with myself. How does he do that? He keeps asking me questions. You know, he'll ask me, "What's it really like inside?" I didn't like questions like that at first. I guess I just didn't want to face up to some of my behavior. But after a while, I realized he wasn't doing it to be critical. He just wanted to understand how I felt about things. I realized that he's too intellectual. That's why I like to tease him by calling him Professor Y. He can't just let things happen. He has to know why they happen. Why'd you do that? Why, Professor? Why? Yeah, why? Well, when you outsmart yourself someday and end up behind a wire cage, I'll know how you look. Be serious. Well, done serious or medium serious or Why so glum? It isn't Black Friday, is it? No. Then why all the gloom? No gloom. I just don't feel like yacking it up. Oh, at times I don't want to strain it anything. I just want everything to hang easy inside. To be free, huh? Yeah, like a streamer in the wind. I'd like that tune to be free inside. Be quiet a moment and listen to what? To everything. Nothing. It's like a symphony. Sounds everywhere. What did you hear inside? Inside? Yeah. What'd you hear inside? Funny. Nothing really. That's it. Huh? Swinging free. Yeah. Come over here. Closer. Sweet. Like sugar candy. Why so sweet? Oh, because suddenly I love you. I thought it was hands off of love. That was before you came along. Is that what you're really telling yourself inside? Well, no. Oh, that maybe I have a hang up with love. You know, a need to be in love with love. Why? You're sounding like Professor Y again. Okay. I don't know. Being in love makes things add up. I mean, it makes things seem important. Like what? Oh, like you, for instance. Being in love with you makes you important. Not in the world's eyes, but mine. When you're important, I'm important. It's that simple, I guess. I'm afraid you make me sound like a love object. Not that I mind being loved, but not as an object. Why do you say that? Why? I guess I want to share things with you, not be owned by them. You're being too vague. Well, when two people encounter one another, it's an open sharing of themselves. That is, if you want the encounter to be any good, anything is possible with such a relationship. You're free to explore yourself and to share what you find with someone else. Does that make any sense? A little. Does it all sound too intellectual? Yes. And a bit sexless, too. I'm sorry. I see this kind of sexy myself. You would. Do you think if we sexed it up a lot, it would help our relationship? I don't know. What don't you know? Oh, about myself. About whether I could trust myself too much sex. I suppose that sounds like a confession, doesn't it? No. What I mean is I don't want to risk blowing our relationship skyhigh with a lot of sex. You mean play it on the safe side? Yeah. Do you think we could do it if we don't let it become the only meeting we have together? You know, you look wild and beautiful behind that wire. You look pretty beautiful yourself. My wildeyed beauty. I think when two people become committed to one another, you know, understanding relationship, they become vulnerable. That is, they can both get hurt. But I suppose when you think about it, that's what being human means, being vulnerable. I get the feeling you're saying something about freedom here, too. How's that? Well, when two people become committed to each other, they choose in a sense to become unguarded. You know, they choose to drop all the conventional masks that people hide behind. It's these masks that prevent us from being free and open. I don't think a person can drop all his masks. We have to keep something of ourselves back. Jerry's right. Not all of our defenses are bad. All of us need to protect some essence, some basic part of ourselves. Where's the balance then between overp protection and underproction? Has anybody got any thoughts on this? I would guess it has to do with communication. Really? What do you mean, Clark? Well, take for instance the problem we're concerned with most. Because sex is so personal, we all use a lot of masks to keep from getting hurt by it. What I mean is when communication is poor between two people, it's because their defenses act as a barrier. When communication is open, when both people respect each other, then something human can take place between them. Does that make sense to anybody? I think I follow your first part. I agree. Most of us have too many walls around this when it comes to sex. What worries me though is what if two people have a problem in this area? How does this communication thing fit in? Or does it? I think it does. I mean, the object is to carry on a dialogue over the walls, so to speak. Both of you exchange feelings. Both of you share a mutual concern for each other. If this concern is genuine, then both parties will have less of a need for the walls. Is that any clearer? What you're saying then, Clark, is the better the communication, the less need there is for defenses or masks? That's right. I wonder does this lack of communication also exist in other areas besides sex? Well, I'd say it was true with sex than say fashion or politics or new cars. Let's face it, our whole society's hung up on this sex thing. In what way do you think it affects your own age group? Who knows? Yeah, it's hard to say. I mean, you get the feeling it's the only thing that's supposed to happen between two people at times. I can't help thinking it's all out of proportion. Yeah, you can't see the forest for the trees. Or people make some big mystical experience out of it or make it into some myth that nobody understands. Does anybody have a way of putting it into context? Yeah, cut the chatter about it. It's something that happens to you, like breathing. So why make a big thing about it? I don't necessarily agree. Why? Okay, so it isn't the big event that admen beat their drums about. Neither is it on the same bodily level as scratching your scalp. What do you mean? Well, it's my feeling that sex is just another way of personally defining myself. You know, a way of communicating myself. What makes it so tough though is the fact that it's such a personal form of communication. You see, we define ourselves in everything we do. Only with sex, we're so much more obvious and open about it. I'll buy that. I don't know. Seems a little bit more complicated than that. Like, well, like a very complex game where you have to keep making up the rules as you go along. Sometimes I wish the rules, my rules anyway, made a little bit more sense. But isn't that one of the challenges of the game to make it yield some sense? Give me a game with rules anytime. Yeah. I don't buy all the clap trap moral schemes of our culture. It's like living in a condemned house. At any time, it's liable to fall in and break you up. You're too pessimistic, Greg. I'm only pessimistic when people don't want to be a part of the moral conscience of our society. A better society or world for that matter doesn't come from better rules, but from each of us living better. But we still need rules, some guidelines to live by. I agree. I don't know. You've got to have more than just rules. Your life is the value you decide to put on it and not what the rules say. It's something you have to choose for yourself. I know this may sound too simple, but the rules begin with you. What I'm trying to say is that you're only as good as you think you are. The death total in Vietnam last year was 865. Um, yeah, that was uh that was nuts. Um, I'm fascinated. So, it wasn't Cornet that Cornet distri distributed it, but somebody else filmed it. And I just want to look and see. I'm going to try to pop back here and see. Um, I'm still talking to you, but let's see here. All right, let's see what company actually shot it. What about sex? Net Link Productions. I've never heard of them before. So, let's see what what we can find. It's another interesting day here at uh AV Geeks when um you're watching me uh type in um things into Google. H Letlick Productions My Life to Live. Huh. They were US-based, so they weren't uh Canadian. My Life to Live ex uh illustrates the experience of young college students in search for an uh discovery for selfidentity. Seems like they have uh a lot of kind of talky um uh self-exploration type of stuff. I'm going to work look on WorldCat, even though recently WorldCat has gotten really bad. Um, but uh thanks for tuning in. Uh, that that scene where they're talking through the uh chain link fence is so great classic uh 60s things. And so I don't know if I've shown the game. I might have to show it. Uh if I haven't uh not today, but uh maybe this week if I haven't shown it. I need to look and see. Um it's a similar type of thing where they're explaining and talking about Oh no that's not me productions. So WorldCat is a website that I use for sometimes doing research and wow it's not coming up. It's not WorldCat just got really bad recently. They just updated something and now we can't um view it on some browsers. Anyhow, thank you so much for tuning in today. Very much appreciated. Uh I won't be at the archive for the next couple of days. 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