AV Geeks 16mm Lunch 12-4-2025

Skip, skip, skip, skip, skip, skip, skip, skip, skip. 1500 shows. Yeah, you did it. Wow. Thank you to all the fans and the people who watch it and keep him going, inspire him. And uh Skip, I think you're amazing and I love what you do and I love what you share in the world and I love you. I hope y'all have a good show. Happy 1500 AV Geeks Lunchtime streaming. Hello everybody. We are live at uh AMIA in uh Baltimore and uh at a conference hotel and I found a little secret place which is next to a escalators that are it's a little hidden hideaway and I'm joined with uh Stephanie Sapienza who is a longtime friend and peer. Uh she actually helped host uh the Bastard Film Encounter here in Balt in Baltimore uh pre-COVID and is uh taking on her own project digitizing 16 mm films from a library uh part of the Green Belt Cinema uh collection and is just a general friend to 16 mm and is an awesome karaoke partner. So >> that's true. Yeah, >> that's the only true thing he said to me. >> The thing is like that's and this is why I like coming to these conferences is that everybody that I meet, they're wonderful, open, friendly people and they're also like diverse in what they do and what they like. They don't just sit and talk about films all day. Like they'll talk about other fun things. And and karaoke is is one of these things that you you gather people together and you're like, "We're going to go do karaoke at this place." And so you've already done one so far, right? And then there's one tonight maybe. >> Yes. >> Yeah. So there you go. >> There you go. >> I think uh someone said at the opening keynote, Mike Bashan, that we're a scrappy bunch. >> And I would totally agree. We're scrappy because this field is >> it's uh hard to make your mark and like carve out your niche and like hold your hold your space for what you want to do. You have to kind of be a little scrappy to get that done. So >> yes. Well, thank you for uh joining us on this. This is our 1500th episode and we also are celebrating the fact that we have more than 200,000 subscribers. So, thank you >> [snorts] >> uh everybody out there. Uh but also thank you Stephanie for doing what you do. I appreciate it. So, today is I'm not going to show new stuff. I'm going to show old stuff, but I'm trying to coordinate because we have a lot of guests coming on. So, we're going to revisit because this show is all about magic moments. So, I'm going to revisit the Magic Moments series uh that Encyclopedia Bratannica did. So, we're going to watch Bang. Enjoy. >> [music] [music] >> Data [music] number. [music] Heat. [music] Heat. [music] >> [music] [music] >> Hey hey hey down. >> [music] [music] [music] [music] >> That's it. >> [music] [music] [music] [music] [music] [music] [music] [music] >> Hey. [music] Mhm. [music] [music] [music] >> [music] [music] >> Get ready. Get set. Go. [cheering] Heat. Heat. [screaming] [cheering] [cheering] >> [cheering] [cheering] [cheering] [screaming] [cheering] >> I love that film so much. So much. So, some of you that have been watching this show since it started mid-March 2020 might recognize this guy. Uh this is Jason Evans Roth and uh he used to work at the NC State Library and we used to do uh shows >> we did virtual shows and before that I used to work with you. Um so what's going on with you? >> Well Skip after >> I let's just I won't bury the lead. I just got hired as the curator of the moving image section at the library of congress national audiovisisual conservation center which I don't think I would have ever even thought of applying for had I not learned about you in grad school Indiana University where I worked with esteemed colleagues Rachel Stolchi and Andy Urick who talked about you as a as a beacon a pillar of the community in preservation and access especially I think I did a project I met you first cuz I did a about you. >> Yes. >> Nice long telephone interview. And then when I got offered the job at NC State as the digital media librarian and born digital curation specialist, >> uh you sort of convinced me that I should take it by taking me on a wonderful tour of downtown Raleigh. A very dead night in downtown. >> Uh and then yeah, we started we started doing regular events at the Hunt Library and DH Hill Junior Library at NC State in 2014. >> Uh and and then became buds. I've I've gotten to see you in in crazy performance pieces at every and in addition to every professional conference that I've gone to. >> Yes. >> Uh we've shared >> really spicy food. >> Yes. >> Um we've made jokes. >> Yes. >> And we've talked and you've taught me a lot about the importance of access and without being uh really a gatekeeper to any of the cool things that you have and want to share with other people. Right. So, you know, like I use I I think of you as the model of like, oh, wow, now I'm in a position where I can help people do things the way that I see you help people doing things. >> Nice. >> But I've only been there for 7 weeks. So, >> yeah. And some of that was shut down time, too. So, >> it was, you know, applying for grocery store jobs. If you'd like to know what a new person at the federal government goes through when furlow happens 5 weeks into their tenure, please let me know. Get in touch. I'd love to tell you that story. We're like every federal worker. like you to know what we were doing when we were told we couldn't go to work. >> Yeah. But um yeah, so the fact that that we were able to do things at the library but but virtually was a big deal like to continue some sense of normaly and I know that some of you out there watch some of these episodes where >> they were later in the evening as opposed to the lunchtime show and we would have experts and they would talk about it was fascinating. It was so great that you facilitated that and it gave me a sense of all right, I'm still even though I'm locked down, I'm still able to do what I like to do and so I appreciate that. >> I'm so glad you wanted to do it. I felt the the same in that where do you go when you don't have the structure? How do you what do you do? Well, I think playing to your strengths, right? Like getting together with people who are saying interesting things, interested in sharing cool stuff and ideas and movies. It was such a It was It was really one of the best the the things I looked forward to the most during lockdown. >> Right. So, Mutual Admiration Society going on here. We love each other and uh I'm happy that he's >> uh going to be only a couple hours away from me in Co Pepper. Uh I love that facility. It's an amazing place. Uh it's in a former uh coal mine, I think. >> So many so many different former things going on in that facility. >> Um but it's really an amazing space. Um, but yeah, let's watch some more of these magic moments. Uh, and thanks for joining us. >> Thanks for having me. >> All right. >> [music] [music] [music] [music] [music] >> All right. So many guests. So many guests. All right. This is my very good friend Katie Trainer. Uh Katie and I like I met her at the first uh Amiia that I went to which was in Minneapolis. >> Oh, right. >> And I don't even know what year that was. A long time ago. >> I don't remember. But you no actually I kind of met you I think at orphans but I really met you hung out. >> Yeah. >> And um you were just this amazing force like you weren't >> sweet. >> You were I don't even know what you weren't doing. You were like >> I was I did archival screening. Was I at the IFC center then? I don't know. >> Right. >> I wasn't at MoMA then. >> No IFC. Yeah. So >> pre IFC so just after Celnik school. I went to the SNICK program in >> 2000 2001. >> Right. Yeah. Yeah. And the So the Cell program is >> Oh, the Cell program is um I want to lead in a little more. Okay. Um is the a certificate program, but now you can do a masters, but it's at the George Eastman Museum in Rochester, New York, and you can study um film preservation and archival studies. Um and it's very intensive um year-long course and you do a lot of film handling and you're taught um subjects by visiting fil um professors or visiting expertise in the field on cataloging and um all all sorts of things. So, and it was very rewarding and um I'm so glad I went there and then that introduced me to this community, the AMIA community. And then I get to meet like my lifelong friends like Skip. >> Yeah. Yeah. We um So, Katie, like to toot your horn, you're at MoMA now. >> Yes. Museum. >> Some of the projects that you have worked on that I thought were amazing is one you helped with the restoration of Night Living Dead. >> Yes. That was that was that's kind of one of my the highlights if like when I retire eventually and people say what did you do at MoMA? That's in my top five. >> Right. And so and part of that >> I got to work with George Romero. >> Yeah. And part of that was also you did a lot of sound restoration work and so it it is the if you haven't seen it it's an amazing visually it's stunning >> but the audio is is always suffered in every version I've ever seen and the fact that that you took so much time and energy to do that was really phenomenal. Well, that was the reason George wanted that. He agreed to restore it and be part of it because he's like cuz he had these things that have bothered him for so long about the sound. It was mainly about the sound for him and not about the picture. I mean, there were some like there's some for the the lovers of Night of the Living Dead, there's many Easter eggs in that film for people and that that they that only they know about because they've watched it so many times. And so when we were doing the picture with him, he wanted to take some things out and I and I talked him off the ledge. I was like, "George, you cannot do this. Your fans will be so disappointed that you took out these Easter eggs that they painstakingly discovered." So he decided that was that was okay to keep them in. But the sound was a different thing. >> Yeah. He really >> went to town on the sound. >> And you also help with basket case. >> Yes. That was another one with Frank Frank Henlau's Basket Basket Case. the the one first one. We haven't done the sequels or anything like that, but yeah, that was and because it's a very New York film, >> you see these scenes of Time Square before it got all um you know, gentrified. Disneyi, that's even better. I was going to say gentrified, but definitely Disneyi. >> And um he was a delight to work with and he was so happy. And um uh that's that's another highlight. Yeah, I really like that film. And so another project that people probably don't know is the all the work that you've done with the Warhol films that MoMA owns, but actually the rights are owned by the >> the copyright is owned by the Warhol Museum. >> But the fact that you helped get all this stuff scanned at higher quality and uh did you want to talk about what's going to be happening next week? >> Oh, you mean in in January for to save and project? Is that what you're talking about? >> Or the the what you did was some of the the box that showed up where your >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, so yes, there's um this is a little bit of a secret like a reveal. So, but it it's kind of out there. Um my colleague Greg and I um discovered a box of unprocessed Warhol that we've gotten processed. Short story. It's a longer story, but short story. Out of 80ome rolls, we 50ome have image. So, we're going to be um Greg Pierce, who formerly worked at the Warhol Museum, is going to be putting a program together of these in for February 2nd at MoMA. And um and it's going to be it's they new screen tests, new footage from sleep, new couch material, new some people we don't even know who they are. Um, and then, you know, just as a warning for those that are a little um puritanic or purit [laughter] like there's a lot of racy material material and we're going to be showing that. So, you're going to see some male genitalia. >> Yep. So, [laughter] and and so Greg Pierce has been on the show. He was part of the orone cinema, Oregon archive, and he was scanning stuff. Uh, so you guys have met Greg and so they together were working through all this >> Warhol stuff and so the fact that you've been able to find and process and now premiere >> I couldn't do it without Greg. Greg is really to be honest he is the for in the world on Warhol not only the material but the the all the players and the people involved. >> Yeah. Yeah. So if you're in New York >> Yes. February [laughter] 2nd >> February 2nd. Come on. It's part of our to save and project series. >> But uh you know Katie is one of the people the reason why I continue to interact with uh Amiia. She's one of the good people who also has other things that you know I just love about her. And so you know longtime friend like if we stop doing film related stuff we still have >> I'll still be your friend. >> Yeah. We'll still have plenty of stuff to do >> cuz I like your wife too. So >> yeah, she's awesome. [laughter] She's so good. >> Yeah. And um so yeah, we're going to watch a educational film that is a basically a foot fetish film called Fantasy of Feet. >> That's so funny that you that that's following our discussion because of my shoe obsession. >> Oh, that's right. >> You there's a film that was made about my shoe assessment called Kate Souls asked by my friend Carolyn Kaylor. She made it as a graduate thesis at Cal Arch. You might find it somewhere. I don't know if it's online, but yeah. Hey. >> And how many how many shoes did you have at that time? >> That time I had like 200 and some pairs. >> 200 and some pairs. And what are you down to now? >> I don't even like I haven't done a >> You've gone up. >> No, they, you know, things have gone away. Things have entered. It's quite different now as I get older. There's more sneakers. >> Collectors [laughter] be collecting. All right. Uh, so here's Fantasy Free. Thank you so much, Katie. >> Oh, that was fun. >> [music] [music] >> Hey. [music] [music] [music] Hey. Hey. >> [music] [music] [music] [music] [music] >> Heat. [music] [music] Heat. [music] >> [music] [music] [music] >> Hey, [music] hey, hey. Hey, hey, hey. Foreign [music] speech. Foreign speech. Foreign speech. >> [music] >> He's taking me like out >> [music] [music] [music] [music] [music] >> there. >> [music] [music] >> Everybody ready? This is the last goround. Four ladies chain. Grand chain across. Turn them. You chain them back. Everybody join hands. Circle up eight and eight. Hand ring. Circle to the left. Reverse single file. Lady in the lead. When you get back home, face [music] the partner. Do a do. Now turn to the corner. Do an alaman left. Come back in a right [music] round the ring. Heat. Heat. [music] [music] Heat. Heat. [music] >> [music] >> Heat. Heat. Come on. >> Hi. >> All right, here we are. There's We got two guests. Uh both uh people I'm incredibly fond of. Andy Urick. Andy, where are you? >> Where am I right now? Sitting next to you. And but professionally. profession professionally or you know >> I'm an assistant professor of moving image archiving at University of Colorado Boulder. >> Nice. Nice. And uh then Louisa [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ] trout. Jesus. All right. [laughter] >> We're only live the story behind. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sure you have >> trout, >> right? >> Trt, >> right? >> University of Tennessee Knoxville. Um, currently arts and humanities librarian. Um, but really a film archavist. Always a film archavist. >> Oh, yeah. >> Yeah. >> And you know, she she brings it and and by bringing it, I mean that she actually brought a 16 mm projector. >> I sure did. >> To this conference, which is about film and nobody else brought a projector. >> Yeah, >> I flew here. >> I haven't brought it out yet, but it's it's here. I got a projector and some film. So, we might have a spontaneous movie show at some point. I don't know. >> And that's what this is all about. It's um the fact that she's like, "Oh, we'll just set it up." Like, we did a a projector >> workshop a couple years ago. >> And you bought you brought your car was full of projectors. Yep. >> And a dog, right? >> And a dog. Y >> um and then uh I think Dino and I we showed up with projectors and >> Yeah. So we did a kind of a session to teach people how to service their 16 projectors. And so you know trying to pass pass pass it on to the next generation of of youngans. >> Important to do right now share the knowledge that's around. I've just been talking to um a person who's new to me here. Um Erica she works in Michigan. Michigan. Michigan. Um and Arbor. Um she's a projectionist full-time full paid projectionist. Um, so it's good to meet people who are still doing that full-time. Um, but yeah, that actually that session that year where we did the small gauge projector maintenance workshop, um, we had a session where some people couldn't show up to the conference session and so we just broke out a film projector. We had a little film show. It was great. >> So use it or lose it. That's that's your that's what what it's all about is like, you know, find a projector, you got films, they have to be shown on a projector. I mean I certainly scan stuff just for convenience but yeah I love showing stuff on a projector and it's important >> what so one of the things I do um in my role as librarian I work with cinema studies professors with the teaching faculty and so I get to do um guest lectures really where I come in we do film petting zoos so students who are not necessarily studying film like production but film kind of theory and culture um and they get a chance to see film projected. I project 16 mm for them and it blows their mind cuz they haven't seen that before. >> Film petting zoo. I love that. That's brilliant cuz kids love cuz I've done workshops where I've had kids like do the non uh photographic animation where they draw on the film and scratch the film >> and that's a lot of fun and they get to get their hands dirty with film. But >> yeah, I think there's a way too that if they watch digitized film students, college students, it's no different than swiping through and it's Tik Tok and it's YouTube. But if you project the film and you show them the film print, then they they pay more attention to the film, >> right? >> You're invested in it >> and you show them the mechanism of how it works and you see the individual frames going through the projector and you see the flicker and it's really and and kids of like young kids love it and like high school kids, they don't like anything, but I sometimes I get them excited about that the concept because they've never seen that before and they don't they won't see it at a movie theater anymore. So, >> and the sound as well. The sound is really what um when we ask for feedback, the sound is really one of the things that they say is, "Oh yeah, it was hearing that projector." And also the smell. >> Oh, yeah. The >> smell of the film. >> The oil of [laughter] the projector, the dust, >> sweating, >> all right. Thank you guys. Well, again, this is we're we're having guests who are good friends of mine who come to these professional conferences, and I enjoy spending time with them because they're wonderful. kind uh incredibly diverse uh people and so thank you for being on my 1500th show. >> Congratulations. Thanks for the audience for watching this stuff and creating a community where Skip can share his collection and his knowledge and his love. >> Yes. Thanks so much, guys. All right, we're we're going to watch another crazy magic moments film. >> Enjoy. >> [music] [music] >> Hey, look. Come on. [music] [music] >> [music] >> Hey you guys, come here. [music] Let's [music] [music] [music] get it. >> Turn around. Come on. Let's go. Let's get you. >> [music] [music] >> You should teach them a here. Mark here. Come on. Here's this ain't no fun anymore. Let's go. Hey, Lee off. [music] >> [music] [music] >> All right, look who it is. Look who it is. >> Hello. >> It's Owen. Uh, you guys might remember Owen from when we did the interview with the filmmaker uh who made a bunch of Inside Out episodes, >> John Alman. >> John Alman. Um, we did that. When did we do that in the spring? >> I'm guessing it's got to be about between four and six months ago. >> Okay. Yeah, >> maybe six. >> Yeah. So he comes to this conference and where are you located now? >> I'm based at Ro in Rochester at the Rochester Institute of Technology. >> Nice. And uh we met and we had lunch and talked about maybe doing future stuff, more projects from a agency for instructional television uh because I found out I have more films. Um and so yeah, maybe we would get John to come back and talk about some of these others in the series that he did. Um, you know, cuz so there was like what series did we figure out he did? >> Well, he worked on Self Incorporated and Think About and Powerhouse, >> right? >> Beyond Beyond Inside Out, which is what we were featuring in that in that >> talk. Yeah. So, uh, and so you're working on a book about all of this, right? >> I'm working on a book. It's a big It's a big book. So I'm publishing along the way in kind of journal articles and book chapters because the book has become so big with you know five years thus far in in oral histories and uh and archival research right >> but it's still working towards that and at the same time publishing along the way. So there'll be an article that you know this 16 mm uh century 16mm journal based on the conference should be coming out in 2026. >> Okay. >> That will have an AIT film in it and I just have something that I just submitted to the uh moving image archive journal. So, one piece at a time as as we move forward, >> right? And so, one of the things that's interesting is you're looking for old episodes featuring John Robbins. >> Oh, yeah. So, I presented uh at this conference on John Robbins work. So, definitely trying to recover some of the lost episodes of like Bookbird and um Storybound, right? Retro Ontario found a couple on off uh off air half inch video cassette a few years ago, which is great. So, trying to recover lost John Robbins definitely. >> Right. And so context, if you're my age, there's a very good chance in watching public television that you've seen John Robinson. And he predates reading Rainbow, but is very similar in the vibe in that it would be he would talk about the story then somebody was it him reading mostly. >> So he would he Alli was often narrating. Paul Alli goes on to direct Mr. Rogers Neighborhood in the 80s. But Robbins would introduce the book and then sketch it usually with colored pencils. Then you kind of go into the book and Lai sometimes would take over narration and had beautiful music. So chapter books for fourth, fifth and sixth graders usually. Um and he started that like in ' 65 with cover to cover at Weta and then eventually doing series with Ray Gladfelter. He did read it in 1982 for agency for instructional uh television. um and uh not enough of his stuff is like available basically for my perspective and I've been interviewing [clears throat] uh uh colleagues and family uh working >> and that's part of the problem is because that a lot of that was video and so video with film when they when people would make films they would distribute it. So there's copies that made their ways to schools and libraries and stuff, but with video it's harder and it's a closer, it's a tinier number of duplications. And in some cases, it would go to a P PBS affiliate and then they would send it back or they would trash it. They wouldn't hold on to it. So >> So they're shot on film but distributed on video. And we think there might be this series Matter of Fiction which like won a National Academy of Television Arts and Sciences award that I think may have been distributed on film also. So if if anyone comes across Matter of Fiction, >> right? And I think I might have. So we we're'll revisit this at some point. >> But uh Owen, thanks for again. Here's another person that I I like hanging out with. We talk about lots of different things >> and then, you know, we were like, "Okay, let's dig into this and let's [clears throat] let's try to find what these films mean, put context behind them, let's talk to the people who made them if we can find them." >> Definitely. >> Uh, all that is really great. And so, thanks, man. >> Yeah. And thank you. Skip's a treasure, as you know, out there and we know here, too. So, >> awesome. >> Thanks for everything you do. >> We're going to continue watching some baffling Encyclopedia Bratannica films. Uh, this is Guessing Game. >> [whistles] [music] [screaming] [music] [cheering] >> Oh. >> All right, we have our next guest, Ivy Donnell. >> Hi. >> Ivy, where are you from? What do you do? I work for the National Archives in the Motion Picture Preservation Lab uh in College Park, Maryland. So, I do preservation work, digitization, um a lot of materials similar to what Skip has. >> Yes. And um are you in the basement? >> Yes, it is technically the basement, but [laughter] if there is an atrium with some skylight. Okay. >> So, you can see daytime occasionally. >> That's the one thing about watching uh what was it? poker face that they they have a whole episode where there's a film archavist >> and he's basically in the basement. >> Yeah, it's a nice basement. I'll put it that way. It's very nice. >> I mean, some people choose it. Like, I totally choose it. Like, I don't want to see like all those people upstairs. Like, I want to have I want to be focused and in my space. >> This is the most daylight we've gotten in a while, I think. >> Yes. the uh so over the years like we have seen each other at bastard film encounters and at conferences and uh one of the things recently that I talked with you about was Hocha >> was the uh the uh Marionette series >> uh made by the United States information uh agency uh as anti-communist propaganda >> for Iranian for Iran but also to I guess other Middle East. >> Yeah, I think it might have been distributed in multiple countries in that region. Yeah, there they produced a lot of anti-communist and also just anti-neutrality films. It wasn't just don't be communist, but it was like you have to choose this side or else bad things could happen in your country and we're going to express that through folktales. >> Yeah. Really strange. I mean, and and so a lot of times we'd watch these and I know that some people on the channel hate Hojo, >> but I'm just Well, yeah. I mean, that's the thing is like >> some of them are creepy looking, so I get it, >> right? And so it's it's a head scratcher. I'm like, wait a minute. Like what what are they talking about? And my favorite character, I can't remember his name. He's the the young radical leftist, >> but he talks like this. Yeah. >> So, you know, he's not a good character cuz he talks like this. >> He's always causing trouble. >> Yeah. Exactly. So, I love the characters. And then you clued me in to that crazy one. >> Yeah. >> That is hand puppets. >> Yeah. The For whatever reason, they had a different company for one episode and it's kind of scary looking and it's the same concept, but it's just way different looking and it's I don't It's even less effective in my opinion. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> The other ones are kind of beautiful and this one's terrifying. >> Yeah. I guess there's a a ballet or a be with marionettes. There's something like more meditative and then the hand puppets is just it's cartoony and you like the eyes are bulging. >> The eyes are giant. >> Yeah. It's just Yeah, it was wrong. So I think that was like they went with that and they're like nope nope that's not going to do it. So um so all the hoas are available on the narrow website, right? >> I believe so. Yeah. And then did you write about the blog posting about that or somebody else? >> Um, a colleague of mine did uh the unwritten record is an excellent blog where we write about um interesting finds in our collection. But yeah, there's a really good blog post about Hojo if you want to learn more and it has links to all the the catalog records so you can watch things there. >> Right. And so yeah, that blog is I go there often just to kind of see like what are the holdings and then what has piqu the interest because you see a lot of stuff. You and your your colleagues see an inordinate amount of stuff and to see what bubbles to the top. >> Yeah, we we all sort of have our own interests. Some of us like puppets. I really like cartoons. And so we just gravitate towards things and if it looks interesting or if we know, oh, researchers might like that, then we write a blog post. >> Right. >> Yeah. So, what is one of the the cartoons that you have discovered that you that somebody can watch from the site that you were like, "Oh, you totally have to check out this one." >> Um, kind of in the same vein as the Hoa puppets, there are these cartoons that were made in Mexico and it's the company that ended up making uh Rocky and Bullwinkle actually. So, >> Oh, wow. >> Yeah. A lot of >> I've shown some of these and they're in sp um and a lot of them a lot of these companies they had these government contracts and then once they earned money from that then they started their own studios and uh I think the n the Ninja Turtles studio also had a government contract early on. So we have a whole bunch of stuff that are like the beginnings of what turned into a major cartoon. So those are really fun. But there's a blog post about those cartoons from Mexico and they're also kind of fun to watch. >> Yeah. And here I thought like so I've always given National Film Board of Canada credit for like funding like burgeoning animators. >> Yeah. >> But here we were using tax dollars to fund the like >> the Ninja Turtles. >> The Ninja Turtles and Rocky and Bull. >> That is money well spent. Well invested. >> All right. So uh thank you so much for joining us Ivy. Um and uh this is yeah our 1500th episode. Congratulations. And this she's one of the people that I enjoy seeing at these conferences just to hang out. We don't even talk about films. We just hang out. >> We do talk about a lot of films. >> Yeah, we talk about a lot of films, but you know, we talk about other stuff, too. We're well-rounded people. So, thanks again. >> Thank you. >> And enjoy the conference. What are you doing? [music] [music] [music] [music] >> [music] [music] >> Left, right, left, right, left, right, left, right, left. [music] Down no down no down. [music] [music] [music] >> [music] >> Heat. Heat. [music] Heat. Heat. N. [music] >> [music] [music] >> paper around here. [music] [music] >> [music] >> What? [music] >> [music] [music] [music] [music] >> Hello, it's just me. Everybody had to rush off to a to panels. Uh, but I appreciate them obviously and I I hope you appreciate the fact that I kind of showed you what my world is like. Um, and films are great. I love collecting films. I love watching them. I love showing them. But it's really the people that have kept me in this field for such a long time and and it's people like you. I mean really I would not have been able to do 1500 episodes if I did not have the wonderful support and feedback from you guys. like this is part of why I do what I do and I very much appreciate you being there for that. Um because if it was if I wasn't getting the feedback I would have done this during co but I probably wouldn't have continued doing it and it's because we have spent so much time together. Uh and there's new people showing up all the time and I appreciate all of you. Uh certainly the donations they're nice they're very nice but it's really the people it's the support. It's the community. And so you saw I showed you some of my community uh of other film and video archive people, but it's you are just as important to me uh as as far as watching this stuff and doing this stuff. And I wanted to share like where I'm kind of secreted away in the corner. But like over near me is Mr. trash wheel, which is a um I guess it is a trash gatherer uh that was made. I think it was kind of a grassroots project. It goes out and it scoops up plastic bags and uh debris and uh basically puts it into some sort of barge or something and it's solar powered. Um, anyways, and it's got big Google AI, which I I couldn't show show you, but that's that's been my partner, my hidden partner that's been giving me great joy. But, uh, Baltimore is awesome. I love it. Um, but yes, uh, so tomorrow is probably going to be pre-recorded. I don't think I'm going to do another live show cuz this was a lot of work. I love you guys, but it was a lot. Uh, and I also have I'm doing a presentation about video stores tomorrow, so that's going to take my energy away. Um, so but I appreciate the time that we spent together and that the time that we will continue to spend together. So again, this is to celebrate our 1500th episode and the fact that we have more than 200,000 subscribers. So thank you so much for that. Um, and I will see you tomorrow maybe. Uh, everybody take care. Love you guys. We'll see you soon. Bye.