A/V Geeks Lunch 3-2-22

so so so so so so see all right there it is hey everybody i was on a zoom call while i was uh broadcasting so i'm hoping there wasn't a bleed over of audio um probably not we were talking about archive stuff anyhow unskipped alzheimer welcome to the avg's lunchtime streaming show where we watch old 16-millimeter films uh that last film that we saw was uh part of this uh giant coronet project where we're scanning a bunch of coronet films and what that means is sometimes we get a film that doesn't have soundtrack and this is called mos which some people said well you know it stands for mid-out sound or missing optical soundtrack or any number of things but basically it's silent so this is a print that was didn't have an optical soundtrack to it and the idea is that uh cornet would uh create different language soundtracks so they could market this film in different countries and so somewhere there exists a you know german french arabic um soundtrack for this fruit fly fly's film so it's kind of interesting all right we're going to get started um this is photographic slides for instruction enjoy are useful instructional materials in black and white or color they are easy to make and easy to use in the classroom slides can be made of student activities microscopic objects pictorial material found in magazines or books scenic or historic spots and local points of interest let's see how a teacher made this slide of a spillway to help her visualize a unit on the community's water supply for outdoor colored pictures a daylight type film is used with each box there is a guide that shows the correct exposure settings for almost any condition the shutter speed and lens opening are read directly from the guide distance is the only other setting to be made the teacher could estimate the distance or use a tape measure but her camera has a range finder to make focusing easier when adjusting the rangefinder control this is what she sees one of the two images moves when it coincides with the other the lens is properly focused then she is ready to make an exposure the local photoshop will handle processing of this film later on in the classroom one of the children projects the slides as the teacher discusses them with the class pictures like this can be taken in normal room light by using fast films here a social studies teacher is making a picture in a printing plan he is using a type of film that gives a finished positive transparency in about three minutes after an exposure is made the tab is pulled and the film is allowed to develop in the camera in about two minutes he can remove the transparency it is complete except for hardening the emulsion which is accomplished by dipping the transparency in a chemical hardening solution this film has two advantages pictures can be taken in normal room light and processing is rapid in less than three minutes a transparency can be made that is ready to mount and show in the classroom a plastic mount like this is practical because it is unbreakable and the special shape eliminates the possibility of projecting the picture upside down other pictures in black and white or color can be taken indoors by using flash bulbs or electronic flash for lighting color pictures of class activities make an effective report to the parents for this you can use a 35 millimeter camera with an inexpensive flash attachment a plastic cover over the reflector serves as a protection in case the bulb should break to find the camera settings select the guide number for the film and bulb you are using at one fiftieth of a second the guide number is 110 to find the proper lens setting divide the guide number by the distance in feet for a distance of 10 feet the result would be 11 so the lens opening is set on 11. then line up the subject in the viewfinder and snap the picture another slide for your collection a pictorial record of class activities is a good way to show pupils accomplishments with flash photography you can also make records of bulletin boards or of class projects a very important source of material for slides is the never-ending supply of maps pictures and graphs in books and magazines these pictorial materials colorful readily available and interesting can inexpensively be converted into useful slides for teaching let's see how a copy is made of this magazine illustration you will need to add an inexpensive close-up attachment to your camera for this type of copywork make the camera settings according to the directions that come with the copying equipment a supplementary lens over the regular lens acts as a simple magnifying glass and permits you to make a close-up of the subject you can make copies quickly and conveniently with this equipment however the size of the pictorial material you can copy will be limited with a rigid copy stand and a more versatile camera you can make adjustments for copying originals of any size two reflector flood lamps can be used for illumination be sure to use an indoor type color film careful focusing assures sharp pictures an exposure meter used as recommended for copying will help you get consistently good exposures you can also use a photo data guide to give you the proper exposure settings similar guides will help you determine the correct lens setting when making extreme close-ups by using your equipment properly and by following instructions carefully you can make good slides if you need a transparency in a hurry copies can be made in a matter of minutes by using the process that makes a positive transparency in the camera daylight is an excellent light source for copying if you're making colored copies be sure to use daylight type film a tripod is a steady support for the camera while you make the exposure to protect slides that are used frequently bind them between two pieces of glass a slide binding tape holds the glass picture and mask together you can also use various types of commercial mounts that are available from your photo dealer often you can add interest to a slide presentation by making a tape recorded narration to accompany the showing good photographic techniques proper exposure sharp focus and interesting camera angles will make your slides more effective notice particularly in these pictures of a leather craft project the use of close-ups to emphasize details a good presentation of your slides is important be sure the room is adequately darkened the projector properly focused and the slides changed smoothly there are many kinds of good projectors you could use once you start a collection of slides for instructional purposes you will discover new and varied uses for your camera whether you use your camera to make pictures through a microscope or take a picture of a flower or make copies outdoors you will enjoy making and using slides every subject matter area offers a wide range of possibilities and you will find many uses for them in your classroom work uh yeah so when i was in uh school of design at nc state um we had to take uh slides of our work and we had to take slides when we were doing presentations about designers or artists so i'd go to the design library you know check out some books and then basically i had a copy stand and would use slide film and then get it processed at the local photo lab um that was just how you did it uh you know this is before powerpoint this is before uh a lot of technologies and um so it was being done into the 80s and 90s um and then scanners started happening um and then you know you started having this presentation software oh my ravioli is done uh so while i eat it uh let's watch this uh film that i have on the telescope behind me uh which uh it's called stand up and paint and i'm not sure if this is like paint like artistically or paint like a room i'm not sure let's see enjoy [Music] so stand up and paint is a simple quick method of painting the first step in painting a living room is to move the furniture to the center of the room then cover it with a plastic sheet the corners of the sheet should be tied together with a clothespin so the sheet will not slip off the piano is covered by a separate plastic sheet because it is difficult to move the next step is to cover the floor areas between the walls and the furniture in this case an old drape was used as a drop cloth then remove the socket plates and put the screws back so that you will not lose them next remove the switch plates and again put the screws back then fill all the holes with spackle using a putty knife paint the ceiling first using a three-quarter inch roller cover jam the roller against the walls as you go down the ceiling this will put paint in the corners the three-quarter inch roller cover holds a considerable amount of paint and makes it unnecessary to dip the roller as many times in this sequence the center of the room over the furniture is easily painted using a roller with a long handle after painting the ceiling paint one wall at a time jamming the roller against the ceiling so that you will not have to use a ladder to paint any unpainted area jam and skid the roller at the top of the wall this will fill all areas with paint difficult areas such as this behind the piano are easy to paint the use of the handle on the roller also makes areas that are difficult to reach such as this easy to paint large services may be painted with one roller full of paint using this cover walls next to fireplaces are easily trimmed with a large brush bending the brush at an angle the edges of all door frames and window frames are painted with a latex paint after painting the edge wipe the surplus paint from the face of the frame the frame will be painted with semi-glossy enamel doors should be sanded before they are painted sand quickly as demonstrated a quick easy way to paint a door and a door frame is to apply the paint again using a one-half inch lambswool roller cover then lay the paint out with an up and down stroke this will give a beautiful brush finish to the doors in laying out the bottom half of the door lift the brush off as you get into the brushed paint so brush marks will not show door frames are easily painted if the paint is again applied with a roller followed with a simple brush out the walls and ceiling in this room should be painted with latex the doors door frames and window frames with semi-gloss enamel when painting baseboards in which the room has wall-to-wall carpeting jam a broad knife between the carpet and the baseboard and then apply the paint with a small brush continually remove the surplus paint from the broad knife to keep it off the carpet then again pry the carpet back and paint the baseboard windows are trimmed by painting each corner first and then painting the window frame next to the glass a beautiful finished room in painting kitchens you must paint the ceiling and each wall separately in this picture the lady is outlining the ceiling with a brush with a long handle which eliminates the use of ladders after going around the room in this fashion she will then roll the undercoat on the ceiling with a one-half inch lambswool roller cover in painting cabinets as in painting doors apply the paint quickly in all directions in fact anyway to get the paint on the door then get a beautiful finish by laying the paint out in long vertical strokes in painting a room with natural finish baseboards the baseboard should be covered with masking tape because flecks of paint will get on the baseboard and will be difficult to clean off if the baseboard is paint of the same color as the wall this is not necessary after applying the masking tape paint five or six inches above the tape then outline the edge of the doors and the windows painting the edge of the frame as you outline them do this one wall at a time the next step is to roll the paint on the wall rolling as close to the windows and doors as possible in trimming the windows paint the corners first then bend the brush at an angle and slide it down the window frame this will paint the area next to the glass quickly and neatly in painting the face of the window frame apply the paint rapidly painting any stroke any manner then again lay the paint out in long smooth strokes this will result in a beautiful finish in cleaning the paint brushes and the roller covers first use a steel brush and brush and squeeze the bristle this will run the thinner through the heel and get the paint out of the bottom of the brush run the brushes through three rinses shake the brush out and put it in a cover and it will be ready for your next painting job the same with the roller cover put it through three or four cleaners then spin the roller so that the nap stands out and hang it up to dry the simple equipment consists of the broom handle for the roller and for the brush a one-half inch lambswool roller cover three-quarter inch roller cover the bucket and the screen stand up and paint wow that was uh that was not what i expected i expected it to be for little kids uh painting inside but i guess the interior maybe was a clue but uh yeah there you go and it's interesting somebody commented like wait no no masking tape well this is before i guess people were using masking tape um in the entire industry of masking tape for paint purposes existed this is just like watching a film about garbage and watching people they didn't have garbage bags they just had they used newspaper to wrap up the trash or they used uh plastic or i'm sorry uh paper uh grocery bags or you know whatever i just put it raw in the trash can that's kind of interesting different time um excuse me all right so what do we got next i don't want to show that next what time is one turn okay all right this is what we're gonna do uh so this next film is um it's a great film uh part of a project uh that was related to this book uh the field guide for sponsored films which was released by the national film preservation foundation and library of congress it was done by rick proudlinger was the main lead on it but it was contributed to by lots of people including myself and one of the things that library congress did is actually worked to try to find good copies of the films that were listed in the guide and put them online and so this is one of them uh that we um i didn't help with this specific film but i did help with the project so this is boy with a knife so there's a uh library congress uh thing at the intro so this is boy with a knife enjoy i'm telling you the vice principal had to lift that long slunking lying fighting wrecking school prop we can wait until i've finished now the next time the vice principal calls about that one you'll have to go after all he's your son not mine at least you can do it can i speak to you alone for a moment don't interrupt you're in enough trouble as it is it's your mother's fault he's no good letting him run wild never caring what he was doing while he was living with her she did a pretty good job raising me so it's my fault well our son turned out all right how do you explain that [Music] it's hard to grow up if a teenager has extra problems emotional or social it's even harder kids like this not wanted by any other group or anyone else much tend to hang out together kids like joe martin he's hardly ever seen his mother sober or fred hammer his father's in prison mike kelly he has to show off all the time try to get attention his parents are dead he lives with his older sister to her he's just another mouth to feed in her large family harry jackson gets too much spending money from his people money never any of their time and jerry phillips rejected by his stepmother let down by his father he's the loneliest of the lot [Music] now cut it off rowdy kids troubled kids headed for trouble still a couple of years from real crime but with destruction and violence their only outlet they're on their way to it unless their outlook can be changed in our city many men and women are dedicated to changing that outlook some give their time and their money to support the work of many organizations and their skilled professional workers like bud williams group work specialist with years of intensive training and experience the schools give him names of potentially delinquent boys his job is to help these youngsters satisfy their teenage need to belong to get rid of some of their resentment against the world and find their place what do you do first you get acquainted with them that's no cinch often it takes a lot of time a lot of stops at their hangout these kids haven't had much reason to trust grown-ups maybe after weeks of trying you finally make some progress the kids show that they notice you and they've got their own ways to let you know that oh gee i'm sorry mr really am skipper i've been around hey guys he's been around a new israel tell us about a newsreel yeah the eyes and ears of the world where you been just around with fellows like you with the bear sir no i sponsor a couple of clubs over the neighborhood youth service oh big deal my name is bud williams you ever belong to a club yeah they kicked me out so what well if you had a club of your own no one could kick you out that'll wreck over there can take you places swimming the fights ball games hikes and there's a clubhouse pool tables records ping pong [Music] why don't you kids give that a club idea world i still say he's a juvie nah he ain't no cop hey i heard about those clubs some guy told me they have a pretty good time at him come on i'm dying to thirst you discuss and evaluate the group with your supervisor you take advantage of the experience of other group workers you don't want to fail these kids you've got to prove that you're one grown-up they can trust that you mean it when you say to them i like you though i don't always like what you do get them to believe that and maybe some of the anger will go out of them the dangerous seething hostility [Music] hi fellas anyway joe boy something sure stinks man let's jump over the gorgeous start a fight yeah it's too hot to fight i can pick you up after school we can have hot dogs and stuff in the game somebody saved me i'm shooting a buck they got to talk about it two bits open i'll be around again hey you mike where's the dope for them potato chips get lost slop i paid for him an hour ago all the time shooting crap taking away all my good cut outs all right i'm gonna call the police go ahead go ahead joe we can work this out i'm sick and tired of this you get these kids on the books they'll have a record for life all i want is a dime for them potato chips that's easy okay joe okay i'll be seeing you fellas [Applause] [Music] eventually your patience pays off they go with you to a playground but they don't dare play baseball or anything else according to the rules they have to clown around to cover up their fear of failure you could make a girl scene with a skirt you think that's so good oh you punk all right ditch the knife jerry try and take it what for you'd only have a bigger one tomorrow your chicken yeah look the only way i want that knife is when you find out you don't need it you have to be careful how you handle this you have to be honest and admit the kids did get out of line but you try to work it so they can leave without losing face the guys have been kicked out of playgrounds before but they've never had an adult leave with them you prove something you're on their side you're beginning to measure up in their eyes man we never even got the first base well i guess we'll have to use the clubhouse for our next meeting squad meeting the regular friday meeting well you guys got a better idea [Music] get this straight i get in the front seat [Music] they do keep that date the following friday and they give the clubhouse the once-over at first they're plenty wary looking for a joker in the setup if they like anything here they'll never admit it you know they might take a powder any second and you wait not pushing and you know there's one thing here they might go for you've started a club [Music] in the months that follow you get to know the boys pretty well in many staff conferences you work on their problems and you're beginning to understand them better in time they give their club a name a plenty sharp one too giving it a name is a big step forward now they've accepted it they're proud of it they belong but that doesn't mean that everything is sweetness and light what do you think you're doing hey it's still my turn i'm not taking the wrap because you shoved my cube you hit the pew bowl didn't you you wanna make something of it all right go ahead why don't you watch where you're going hey cut it out ah dropkid you're gonna let harry push around like that oh sure oh you're a chicken just like your old man who says he's chicken i do i got it straight from my sis your sis what does she know about it she and your ladies always john it up ain't they what does that prove it proves that my sis is right that your old man is chicken that's a lie yeah hit him mike come on all right take it out get him again all right easy jerry relax if we carve each other up pretty soon there won't be any more wrinkles left who cares [Music] i swear you're getting to be more of a hoodlum every day just look at that shirt do you know how much money a shirt costs these days this son of yours has been fighting again look at this shirt can i tell you about his pot look he's proud of it please pop not now jerry i'm tired mike kelly said you didn't have the guts to stand up for yourself so i took a poke at him that was all right mike you fought a boy who doesn't even have a father he didn't have any right to say that about you that he popped go to your room and get a decent shirt this minute did he pop did he better put on a decent shirt jerry [Music] no father no matter how much he wants peace in his family can rest easily after getting a look like that from his son [Music] he needs help you listen your questions guide him having someone to talk to helps him to see his problem more clearly to realize he must face up to it attendance at meetings has been pretty regular you've had the boys out in the station wagon on hikes into the movies but underneath it all there's something more important the kids are beginning to learn the feeling of friendship and trust toward each other and toward you an adult sometimes the boys are able to talk out their anger and frustration instead of wrecking everything in sight they take you into their plans plans that you're glad to listen to and go along with they finally gotten around to thinking of electing officers such a customary procedure for a club and that's what makes it important it's customary [Music] pop pop they want me to run for sergeant-at-arms down at the regals oh good for you i've been thinking about that club of his i'll be late at the point well you think about it too he shouldn't be allowed to associate with that bunch of not allowed but you don't even know any of the guys see how he talks back to me those regals were supposed to do him so much good but it's perfectly obvious to me we'll have to talk it over tonight tonight but pop the election's today you heard what your father said you stay away from that club until we make up our minds the knife [Music] always the knife a poor substitute for understanding for strength for love all in favor of mike kelly for treasure come on you guys that's me come on red raise your hand all in favor harry jackson for treasure hey come on man that's me yeah that takes care of it your answer well that's a lousy frame up hang with it mike you hang with us where you have been punk just scoop it off yeah well you almost missed voting for yourself stupid all right all those in favor jerry phillips for sergeant-at-arms one two three four you're right hey hey wait just a darn minute his old eddie's gonna yank him out of the club she told my sis he's also gonna send him away live with his grandma that's a lie oh yeah i suppose your old man's gonna stop her he will i know it that's a laugh hold up jerry don't mess up all right son wow he was really gonna let me have it this is serious fellas yeah let's do something let's go find him stop it i don't call the police what are you what are you doing stop it son where did you get that that's jerry's equalizer mr phillips oh jerry i'm not putting up with any of these goings on another minute that son of yours has got to go not so fast mabel first i want to hear what brought this on she's sending me back to grandma's you just bet i am jerry's not going to be sent anyplace he's staying right here we better go fellas yeah yeah so long jerry yes at the clubhouse chair well i like that standing up for that hoodlum son of yours everybody's done mabel don't you realize it's not so much jerry's fault now you're blaming me please i'm blaming myself just as much but from now on jerry everybody in my family gets heard where are you going what can he say how can he put it into words that day on the playground what was it bug the only way i want that knife is when you find out you don't need it jerry and his family weren't the only ones helped that day all the boys have been affected and you knew that there was hope in the future juvenile delinquency is one of our biggest problems here in chicago community fund agencies are doing something about it they can do more with your help they can do more about other problems too such as child care clinic services more help for the handicapped and the agent these problems on our doorstep are the responsibility of all of us they are our first responsibility so let's give and give generously to chicago's community fund your gift really counts so that was uh basically about contributing to the community chest which was a community fund or the blue feather the red feather and then what eventually became um united way uh in a lot of communities um and nationally uh yeah i'm sorry about the audio sink that was weird i'm not i'm not absolutely sure what um what's going on there but that stepmother man she was a problem what's funny is she's actually that actress actually shows up in another film i have called fears of children where she plays a very understanding mother um and in the opposite of what her character is uh speaking of mothers causing problems this next one is pretty great and i've held off from showing this for a while but it's it's so good so here's more dangerous than dynamite [Music] [Applause] [Music] every year thousands of persons are killed and millions of dollars in damage is done through pure carelessness in the home here are some of the commonest causes of fires and accidents yes many of us do this on chilly mornings but jumping out of an airplane is safer another thing always shut the gas off at the pipe valve too gas hose and hose connections often leak permanent connections are better you've heard of the ostrich burying its head in the sand so it can't see danger fuse plugs are the safety valves of your electrical system to place pennies behind them is to remove that safety factor fire is the certain result keep lamp cords in plain sight then you can see when they're worn out [Music] yes it still occurs in some of our best families and it's nearly always fatal [Music] this is often as sure and as effective as the electric chair [Music] burn rubbish in an approved incinerator combustible dust mixed with air is highly explosive wrapped in paper it can be burned safely have you one of these in your home open paint buckets oil soaked rags just the dish for spontaneous combustion [Music] so most people know of the fire hazards of gasoline and other flammable fluids but have not grasped the complete picture of the dangers involved the woman using gasoline in her kitchen or elsewhere in the home with a false idea of economy does not fully realize the true high explosive character of a mixture of air and gasoline vapor on the other hand in dry cleaning establishments such as this which have been licensed by the state all work is under the supervision of men who are familiar with the properties of gasoline and experienced in fire prevention precautions all garments to be cleaned are placed in one of these cylindrical metal washers [Music] the gasoline or solvent is stored many feet underground in fireproof tanks when needed just the right amount clean and filtered is pumped into the washer the housewife however keeps her whole supply unprotected beside her she is subject to distractions by other domestic duties during the time she's dry cleaning and others even her children are exposed to this unnecessary peril fire inspectors constantly check state control dry cleaning plants to see that fire safeguards are in good working order all machinery and metal parts are grounded to water pipes against vagrant currents and static electricity even interior metal parts are grounded with heavy copper wire this fusible link melts at 160 degrees and closes the washer door when this one melts the weight drops automatically opening a dump valve in the bottom of the washer the solvent is instantly drained safely into the underground tanks removing the danger but what chance has the housewife without these safeguards these overhead steam outlets are operated from an outside valve filling the room with live steam to smother the fire if an explosion occurs these roof hatches open automatically to relieve the force [Music] all lights are controlled by outside switches to avoid the danger from an electric arc electric lights are under vapor-proof globes fire extinguishers are plainly marked with the date of last filling again the fusible link coupling is brought into use this time to hold fireproof doors open against gravity a pull on this valve releases steam into the washer room [Music] but where are the steam valves here heavy vapors are drawn through the roof by an air duct however fire shuts this draft off here fresh air is admitted to help carry off the vapors asbestos blankets placed outside each building provide protection for the workers in this dry tumbler suction fans withdraw the solvent vapors and expel them safely should the improbable happen despite these precautions the explosion would only force the hatches open against the valve lever and presto the tumbler is flooded with fire smothering steve but still no protecting steam for the housewife fires are extremely rare in state supervised cleaning plants however should one occur here's how these safeguards work all doors close automatically [Music] live steam deadliest full of fire [Music] [Applause] surrounded by dangers the room slowly filling with flammable vapor which even a tiny spark will explode [Music] fire on the stove flames under the water heater even if she does her cleaning outdoors there is still the greatest danger of all the invisible menace of static electricity [Music] don't run that fans the blaze that's it wrap her up wait not over her head she'll inhale the flames [Music] another run for the fire department each year answering thousands of such calls every day ambulances pick up victims of gasoline fires what grim message awaits behind the panels of this silent door [Music] even doctors all too familiar with pain and suffering are touched by the needlessness of such a scene as this [Music] but one of the other victims of this useless tragedy the anxious father [Music] the bewildered children motherless perhaps [Music] no fortunately not in this case but their pretty mother withered and scarred for life [Music] um what may i ask is a dear little cupcake like my dear child we haven't had school or books and ages no school really why don't you get rid of that school book you can drop them in here it'll get all burned up in there well of course it will dear child and so it should books tamper with man's basic natural ignorance now what could be worse than that but i can't burn this book at school property nonsense apple sugar you just need to get into the [Music] books are not where it's at teaching you how to spell cat i know you'd rather play so why don't you throw all your books away [Music] put the books in the fire see the flames growing higher burning books is [Music] books will not make you wise and reading's bad for your eyes i am sure you agree so why don't you give all your books to me [Music] see the flames is [Music] [Music] teaching you things you can't you you should listen to me burning your books will set your mind free [Music] [Applause] [Music] um [Music] [Applause] [Music] all right it was a stretch um to show uh more dangerous than dynamite and then show books are for burning especially because shake hands with danger actually has a segment that talks about the dangers of cleaning with gasoline which is what more dangerous the dynamite is about but i had just shown the shake hands with danger segment um yesterday was it yeah and or day before uh and so and i hadn't shown this recently and i found the full version of it um versus the the the cut down version that i had made and accidentally had shown before but um so more dangerous than dynamite it's it's kind of important to uh av geeks because um very early on in my life i was either in the seventh or eighth grade i saw this thing i used to watch saturday night live all the time and during the summer they would sometimes run reruns or sometimes they would run different programming and so they ran this thing called twilight theater which was a bunch of skits that were steve martin was in which i was a big fan of steve martin as well as everybody else but in one episode i saw many things that changed my life that warped my brain one of them was uh pee-wee herman there was a pee-wee herman a bit one was quasi at the quackadero a little segment of this animated cartoon which i eventually found and the animator who she actually went to school in raleigh uh in kind of high school pre-college um and then the devo beautiful world video which is a wonderful video one of my favorites that's filled with stock footage including shots from more dangerous than dynamite uh the scene where the woman is running and she's on fire that animated fire that some of you you guys wanted more realistic fire i guess or you wanted to actually be on fire um but that and then there's a scene where uh cars being blown up uh those those there's some segments in there that are in this and there's also uh in another film called uh fallout uh anyways that was my first little foray into thinking about ironic use of stock footage and that definitely warped my brain at night of entertainment um of which i am still positively maybe positively uh pursuing and i actually found the person who made the the video or helped edit it was chuck stadler uh and i've been trying to get him to come on live so we can interview him but he doesn't want to do a live interview so i'm going to try to figure out a way to do it it might be pre-recorded and then um yeah anyways a wonderful filmmaker did a lot of music videos early on uh devo and some other bands um but anyways so that watching more dangerous than dynamite definitely you know it's something that i hold dear and i don't have a copy of the film i've been looking for a copy of the film this copy i scanned for a fellow collector um is based in houston but anyways thanks everybody for tuning in today uh tomorrow i might not be in um the archive i might be somewhere else but we'll see we'll see how that works out um but uh if you like what you saw you can buy some coffee at ko dash fi.com av geeks you can also go to avgeeks.com and buy dvds and watch other things we did you can hit the like button the thumbs up button the subscribe button the share button the button the button the button button button all those things anyways um i will see you tomorrow uh it probably will be pre-recorded because i'm going to be doing some work um in another place uh but anyways more details on that later everybody have a great rest of your day and i will see you soon bye you