A/V Geeks Lunch 11-15-2021

so so so so so so so so so so so here's the rooster hey everybody i'm skip alzheimer welcome to the av geeks lunchtime streaming show uh somebody in the comments was mentioning that that was a pafe film but they didn't see the rooster at the beginning and there it was at the end uh we just watched the crayfish in the stickleback a nature film nature an early educational short it wasn't necessarily shown or made to be shown in schools it was kind of general audience interest but uh interesting footage nonetheless um yeah so uh we watch old 16 millimeter films here and um i have quite a few quite a few so let's watch this film about wind power uh thanks to nasa [Music] [Music] residents of this rhode island community can use steady ocean breezes to help air condition their homes in the summer or to heat them during the cold new england winters they'll do it with a 200 000 watt wind turbine generator the place is block island about 35 miles south of providence this is the third experimental 200 000 watt wind machine in a five-year wind energy program a joint project of the department of energy and nasa this new england island like all windmill sites was chosen because of its consistently high winds the generator will electrify up to 250 homes during the winter that's half the permanent residences on the island until the windmill block island used all diesel generators for electricity but now wind energy and diesel fuel will work together to power the island block island's winds should make it possible for the generator to operate at an average year-round output of 100 000 watts an hour now when we come to savings it's directly proportional to the fuel if this machine generates approximately 100 average which it will with a 17 mile an hour wind that would come to a considerable amount of fuel 40 50 000 gallons during the course of a year and simply multiply that by the present price and you can see that it's it's substantial block island is not the only community boasting a new wind generator another windmill now towers majestically one thousand feet above the mountain town of boone north carolina and the folks from boone have lots to brag about because their windmill is the largest in the world the blades alone weigh 18 tons they spread 200 feet from tip to tip about the wingspan of a boeing 747 machine produces 2 million watts of electricity or 10 times as much as the other generators before the dedication engineers tested the windmill from the control van okay here we go the electricity that's produced is cabled underground through the legs of the generator and then ties in here before it's sent down the mountain for distribution [Music] dedication day was a big event in boone it was declared a town holiday and everyone turned out to celebrate mountain style [Music] you on my pillow in all of my dreams [Music] [Music] [Applause] sir [Music] interest in wind energy is growing and now that the cost of fossil fuel has increased and supplies have dwindled engineers are once again turning to the wind as a potential source of renewable energy [Music] so uh my parents routinely we went to the mountains of north carolina and i do remember seeing that uh that giant windmill um i was very excited about it because almost the rest of the boone experience was really boring except for going to um nearby uh blowing rock going to tweetsie railroad or land of oz um boone used to be a dry county so it used to be you could not purchase alcohol in that county most people would go over the border into tennessee and buy alcohol or was it virginia i think it was tennessee i have to look at my map but uh anyways um how far we've come how far we've come uh this next film is uh from fiber to twine enjoy where the decorticating machine is located the apparatus is simple and can be moved easily from place to place by pulling the strips between steel knives the pulp is scraped off and the clean fiber remains these fibers are often 10 to 12 feet long native girls spread the moist fiber over wire racks where it dries and bleaches in the sun when thoroughly dry it's failed and carried to the sea coast where it's loaded for shipment the heineken plant from which sisal fiber is obtained looks something like the century plant with which we are familiar when the plants are five to seven years old cutting starts twice a year 10 or 12 matured leaves are carefully cut off the lower part of each plant with a specially designed knife these are bound into bundles loaded on carts or tram cars and carried to the decorticating machine where the pulp is crushed out of the leaves and separated from the fiber the leaves go into one side and the fiber comes out the other where it's gathered and spread evenly over wire ranks after drying and bleaching in the hot sunshine the fiber is again gathered together pressed into 400 pound bales and conveyed to the nearest dock where it's loaded for shipment to the twine mills in new orleans chicago and hamilton canada the fiber is unloaded from the boats and truck directly into the harvester company's warehouses where it's stored until needed every bale of fiber must pass the keen scrutiny of these inspectors before entering the mill here we start the combing process that continues through eight similar operations until the finish line is spun into the well-known big balls that we shall see later the raw fiber is carefully separated and spread as it enters the first machine and a special oil is added to increase the flexibility of the fibers and guard against damage by insects in the harvest field the fiber is carried from slow moving combs to fast ones thus straightening the strands much like currying a horse's tail these big piles of fiber have come from the first combing machine and are being fed into the second by the time the fiber emerges from the second and third machines the insect repelling oil has been thoroughly worked into it and the fiber has become soft and flexible and looks like a big rope of taffy candy twine mill men call this stream of fiber the sliver the operator is signaled when the pile obtains a specific weight which he verifies so that piles of uniform size can be assembled for the next operation as the slivers from matched piles of equal weight pass from one machine to another throughout eight similar combing operations the sliver becomes straighter and smoother smaller and more flexible until it's combed down to the right size for spinning into binder twine like little streams of water flowing down the hillside come these smooth slivers of fiber from the last combing machine called the finisher coil upon coil it is caught in these big barrels and taken to the spinning room and here it is the spinning room itself with a battery of a hunt vending machines in a row this is just one of many similar rooms devoted to the making of mccormick bearing twine the barrels are taken off the coiled fiber and these piles rapidly and automatically feed into the spinners the work of each machine is checked every few minutes by expert operators the sliver is pulled through one last series of combs which straighten and separate the strands of fiber preparatory to the spinning which consists of twisting the fiber 14 and one half times to the foot and winding it rapidly on this whirling bobbin which holds about 10 pounds of finish twice the bobbins are taken to the balling machine where the big ball starts to take form it's a tight criss-cross style of winding that makes up the mccormick bearing big ball and it continues as you see here until the ball attains the correct weight when the machine stops automatically here is the mccormick during big ball as it comes from the balling machine and before the patented cover has been added it is smooth uniform and guaranteed for length strength and weight each ball is weighed individually then six are grouped and weighed to make up a full weight veil you can't fool the scale beam in sets of six the balls are taken to the covering machine where the famous patented hammock-like cover is added in this manner the cover becomes a part of the ball and is used to tie bundles just the same as the rest it is this patented cover that identifies the genuine mccormick during big ball twine when covered in this manner the ball is more solid and resists the shocks encountered in shipping without losing its shape there's no raveling out of the ball and no snarling in the twine can here is exactly what we mean the ball has been entirely drawn out leaving only the cover see how it holds up there's no tangling or snarling as the cover itself leaves the twine can and passes through the knotter to tie bundles just the same as the rest of the ball throughout the manufacture of mccormick deering twine length strength and weight are constantly checked and inspected after the twine is made trained inspectors pick out balls at random to test for uniform quality and strength when thin spots are found they are marked and later subjected to this breaking test which registers the force necessary to break the twine it is by this method of inspection that a check is kept on the various spinning machines and quality maintained here's the man who cuts out that extra-large sized potato or grain sack that you get with each bale of mccormick deering twine and this industrious seamstress would keep up with the best of the women folks as he sews up the bags the finished bags pass through a typical printing press where they are labeled so that each brand of mccormick bearing twine can be identified a final inspection and then into the bags matched groups of six big balls previously weighed are bagged and passed along a moving belt to make sure of full weight each of these filled bags must pass over an automatic scale that detects instantly any bale under the specified limit a glance at the pointer tells the operator whether the bale is heavy or light from the automatic scale the bag is passed to the sewing machine which securely closes the top the bags are still on the moving belt and they're sold automatically as they pass along the next operation is roping the bale for shipment look at the long piece of rope these men use to tie the bales more than 14 feet enough for two strong halter ropes from fiber to twine is a long and interesting process but these veils yet have a long way to go by rail and by water they are dispatched to every grain growing country on earth the spinning of mccormick during binder twine at a century of progress the world's fair in chicago was one of the most interesting exhibits to be found a large crowd continually surrounded this display and besieged the operators with questions only the final operations of the twine mill were shown these included the spinner running at about half speed the balling machine also running slowly and the covering machine with a transparent guard to permit onlookers to see the entire operation a testing device was included to show the tensile strength of the newly made twilight and the practical application was perhaps the most fascinating of all a complete mccormick daring binder head operating automatically tied nuts all day long just as they are tied in the harvest field polished steel arms took the place of bundles of grain and the device worked at half speed so that everyone could see just how the knot tying mechanism works in the binder and all this to provide the best of all binder twine to tie the crops that go to feed a hungry world for without pin the finest binder ever built would be only a boeing machine [Music] so um this came from oregon archive which ultimately the film itself came from mogul brothers and i like how they tacked on they they are notorious for tacking on titles and end uh the ends and that one was um obviously from something about spiders they just kind of clipped and we're like well we got to put the end on it the end um yeah it's they just kind of this mogul brothers was like a film library where you could rent films and they i don't know if they were actually producing films like make taking 35 millimeter films and then shrinking them down to 16 and then distributing them or what their deal was but they they played pretty fast and loose with um you know stuff that was out there so i find something in like the title on the can says such and such and then you know there's a little tact on title and then i find out later like oh no really the name of that film is something totally different um that's kind of the way it is uh fast and loose like i said all right so uh speeding fast and loose behind me i have a telecini which is a machine that transfers films in real time and i've got it set up and we're gonna this film is missing the beginning uh and is it's been kind of beat up which tells me that maybe this is very popular with kids it was shown a lot it's called ducks so let's learn about ducks big and some are small some ducks are yellow and some are white but all ducks have feet and bills when ducks are hungry they like to eat and when they get thirsty they like to drink ducks like to walk and ducks like to run sometimes they walk in crowds and sometimes they walk alone ducks like water they like to jump into it and swim in it and keep clean with it a duck is a very special bird and duck is a very special word [Music] ducks are big and ducks are small ducks are short and ducks are tall there are many kinds and colors some are white and there are others brown or green or tan or yellow yellow like this little fellow these are farmer jones's ducks these are white and yellow ducks duck is a word that stands for bird that walks with little wet feet feathers on its back and it talks with a quack to anyone it might meet a bird has a beak and the duck has a bill with which he eats and drinks his fill he waddles round the barnyard ground and pecks at food and lies around and with his bill he drinks his fill of water that he seldom spills duck is a very special bird and duck is a very special word duck is a word that stands for bird that walks with fiddle with me that is left back and it talks with a crack to anyone it might be [Music] waddle here and waddle there ducks like anywhere some like walking in a crowd while others walk alone and proudly some ducks like to walk behind other ducks that walk in line some ducks like to walk around in circles on the barnyard ground duck is a word that stands for bird that walks with little wealthy feathers not back and it talks with a quack to anyone it might be [Music] keeping clean is lots of fun for ducklings ducks and everyone always washed and clean and neat and nicer birds you'll seldom meet their feathers are so clean and bright they keep them clean both day and night ducks take bears like you and i but the last do not need cows to dry duck is a word that stands for a bird that walks with little wet feet brothers run it back and it talks with a quack to anyone it might be when it comes to dinner time ducks are always right on time running to be first in line no duck wants to be behind little ducklings beside other ducklings side by side bigger ducks get hungry too and eat just like their babies do duck is a word that stands for bird that walks with fiddle wet feet cut his eyes back and he talks with a quack to anyone it might be water is the favorite place for all the ducks to play they like to jump and splash about and do so every day they like to swim and paddle all around their little pond and if their wings were strong enough they'd like to go beyond duck is a word that stands for bird that walks with two web feet feathers lights back and it talks with a quack to anyone it's like [Music] do [Music] do [Music] do [Music] i was also missing the end too i don't know what happened but that song was awesome um and thank you some of you for uh recommending this as a contender for the toe tapping tournament uh where we vote on our top jingles and then we confront the found footage festival guys and uh we take them down which will happen in um probably next uh april or sometime next spring but yeah i'll make notes about that in the meantime are your children safe my children are safe so [Music] rachel rachel when i take you out of your playpen rachel i want to be certain that you stay away from the range because it's very hot understand i think not you see rachel is at that tender age when she is totally dependent on the protection on the care of someone else with proper attention she will mature and education will supersede the need for protection but right now rachel is simply getting her first lesson in education her name she knows what it means soon there will be other important life-saving words for her to learn words like no no cindy we don't touch mother's art objects let me get you something of yours to look at linda and charles robb daughter and son-in-law of the late president lyndon johnson are examples of concerned parents they mix practical experience with information from the national safety council and the american academy of pediatrics to safeguard their children lucinda and kathy we try to keep hazardous items out of the reach of the children but there are many things such as art objects that we have to keep low and those things we tell the children please don't touch when the age of reasoning starts usually past two years old children can start their education in safety before that i've taught them the meaning of no and hot after age one they usually understand those words i use no most frequently here in the living room hot is more pertinent in the kitchen i think this is the most dangerous place in the house i'm busy working and cooking in here and having time to play with the children so we organize some of their play things toys crayons or whatever have them sit down in their place in the kitchen we've created a controlled situation the range is a problem we try to tell the girls it's hot don't touch in the kitchen we check to make sure there are never dangling or defective cords about the kitchen equipment the national safety council recommends that skillets and the light be put on back burners tablecloths shouldn't hang within reach they say it's always best to keep dangerous products out of reach we keep our dangerous household chemicals in a locked cabinet we also keep our knives out of reach in a special rack which requires adult thought to remove the knives of course there is the risk that children will pull chairs up to the range i simply do my best to tell them not to touch [Music] an infant is utterly dependent on his parents for everything he needs love food shelter and protection the overwhelming majority of parents fulfill these responsibilities accident prevention is the most tragic exception phil dykstra of the national safety council suggests ways parents can make sure infants are as safe as they should be with protection plus there is no totally foolproof way of protecting young children from accidental injuries in the home but it is possible to minimize the chance of such injuries by eliminating potential hazards giving children this extra margin of safety is what we call protection plus for example protection plus means covering electrical outlets so that children can't insert hair pins or other sharp objects into those openings and shock or burn themselves it also means storing matches and cigarette lighters out of sight and out of reach of children gravity always seems to be tugging at the seat of a toddler's pants minor bumps and bruises are all part of his education but as soon as he starts to climb teach him the dangers that are involved keep the crib sides up never leave infants alone on beds or chairs install gates at the top and the bottom of stairways until the child has learned to negotiate the stairs in a safe manner ever notice how kids love to explore the house both with their hands and their mouths keep all poisonous products out of reach of tiny hands use only non-toxic paint on cribs toys and any other objects that children chew on be especially careful with safety pins they are a common cause of infant injuries have a definite storage place for toys and teach your children early to keep their toys in that place keep stairs and floors clear of tripping hazards make sure that all throw rugs have a non-skid backing protection plus also means educating the child not to run in the house he should be taught word association such as the hot which mrs robb described this helps your children respect your warnings remember your kids will always be kids but they'll grow up safely if you help them with protection plus one way of protecting our girls is latching our doors we have latches which are high enough so only chuck and i can reach them aesthetically the latches leave something to be desired but it means that i can keep certain rooms closed off without worry the downstairs is a relaxation and recreation area once when our girls were much younger we had people over for dinner and was sunday managed to turn on a range because we never used it we forgot it was a working range we'd left a wooden bucket on top fortunately it didn't catch fire the smell was something else we immediately removed the knobs and now if we want to turn this range on we have to locate the knobs another dangerous area is the laundry area here again we try to keep the dangerous objects high the iron is kept out of reach and unplugged except when in use usually iron when the children are asleep or in school and not here to touch and explore a tv set rests on a platform well beyond the reach of curious hands with the television raised we don't have to worry about the girls pulling at the knobs or exploring the back of the set in the children's room i try to keep toys down at a play level so the children don't pull toys down on themselves when the children were under one year old we gave them squeak toys sturdy non-flowerable rattles washable stuffed dolls with embroidered eyes colored balls cuffs or smooth non-breakable objects to chew on at age one or two we handed them rubber or washable squeak toys and soft stuffed dolls they started playing with blocks with rounded corners and pushing pro toys with strings or rounded handles later at the explorative age two to three the girls had wooden animals cars and wagons to push around tip proof kitty cars and tricycles large crayons low rocking horses and simple musical instruments we avoided anything with sharp or rough edges or with removable parts at ages three to four we introduced into small brooms toy telephones dolls with simple wrap around clothing doll buggies and furniture dishes miniature garden tools trucks and tractors we try to see that the toys are well made won't break or splinter we also try to avoid toys which are too heavy for the girls looking at this room full of toys makes me mindful of just how dependent we parents are on industry to take the initiative in making their products safe to handle why are children so susceptible to accidents the predominant factor is the failure by most of us to recognize children's rapid physical and intellectual changes and to take basic precautions daniel hersen president and chairman of the board of acacia mutual life describes the concern of one of america's life insurance companies about planning for the safety of our young i and most of the employees of my company and certainly the majority of our policy owners are parents so as parents we can appreciate in a very real and a very personal way the tremendous help that we receive when we are able to prevent accidents occurring among our young children certainly it's to the best interest and to the business interest of a life insurance company when we can prevent premature deaths and when we can extend and prolong the span of life in our company a mutual company the policyholders are the owners of the business and they benefit directly from the savings which occur when we are able to reduce accidents and to prolong the span of life but our real concern arises from a basic need for the dissemination of much more public information on the prevention of accidents among our young children the robs as young parents are certainly an inspiration and remind me of when my boys were growing up the american free enterprise system is today more tuned than ever to its social responsibilities and certainly the prevention of accidents to our young is a part of that responsibility my company's view is the same concern that those of us who are parents have the safety and welfare of our own children the physician is also concerned about eliminating senseless infant accidents physicians are taking an active interest in community accident prevention and education working with women's clubs and many other community organizations all this activity and concern for what well that rachel might grow stronger and more independent but she and the millions of other infants will grow older and rely more on their own education instead of constant adult protection robert louis stevenson said that youth is wholly experimental he was right there's an entire world waiting for young people to explore let's have the wisdom to anticipate our children's wants by removing potential hazards we can provide the climate for them to mature in safety free from fear of senseless oversight so [Music] so [Applause] [Music] the host of that film bob rayford was a north carolina broadcaster in the charlotte area so i knew him he used to do little tv things [Music] on one of the local news shows and walter j klein of course is based in charlotte um and this was one of those sponsored films sponsored by a insurance company and then um you know the film was paid for by the insurance company and then this was distributed to tv stations into schools and things like that so that help advertise for the insurance company um but bob rayford yeah um has a very distinct voice and i remember when i was in college he actually appears as a newscaster in a handmaid's tale the film that was actually shot when it was a film before was a tv show that was shot in north carolina he appears as a conservative um uh newscaster and uh then a couple years later he started uh popping up on the john boy and billy radio show also as a conservative uh newscaster kind of doing a rush limbaugh-esque shtick um which i guess a lot of a lot there were a lot of those out there um and so then if if you look at the wikipedia thing he shows up in a bunch of films that were shot in north carolina back when north carolina was making a lot of films so there you go bob rayford um let's see what do we want to watch oh yeah i got another film set up on the telecini behind me um this one was rescued from a dumpster and somebody held on to it for a long time and then said i don't have room for it and they sent them to me it's made by gold productions and we've shown a couple of films from gold productions uh some of them were air force some of them were uh that tire rigging demo film was gold productions and this one i'm not sure what it is but because i haven't seen it um but i have a feeling this is for united way because they did another film for united way and this just feels like that's what it is anyways let's see feeling helping feel so good enjoy [Music] it's the craziest thing i ever did main street usa it's a fantasy here in disneyland things are great here but it's not often that way in the real world beneath the beard you probably know me better is joe rossi from the lou grant show but in real life i'm robert walden and while i have done some writing i'm not a real reporter but i am a real human being who cares not so much about the story but what the story is all about and that's humanity that's what's important and that's where the united way comes in see here in orange county 85 agencies are being served all year long the united way we're going to show you some of those agencies and let you feel their spirit of helping so good but the copyright hammer makes it feel so bad so i'm going to uh temporarily uh mute it janet are you going to buy anything at the moment no i don't have any money one year we came down here to the beverly manor convalescent home and did some christmas caroling and that was really how we got started oh fresh air that's what i love ah here we come one of the things they do here quite regularly is to take these different senior citizens on different outings sometimes the girls handle it better than adults pretty faces they really see a warm needing side to the older sydney citizen and it's just a beautiful relationship goodwill industries does much more than collect and sell reconditioned articles they provide training in trades and work and adjustment experience to handicap persons in the area they have the handicap all of a sudden in one way or another but these people have learned to lick their handicap they come in here to work people praise them for working and they just try so hard and they take care of their self and they do beautifully but they don't have families around to take care of them so goodwill has taught them how to take care of their self and adapt to life in the world and they've done quite well swimming and gymnastics united way helps support the ymca what we have here is a normal everyday team workout my name is eric well i'm with the north orange county ymca gymnastics training very hard and compete in meets with other clubs and even at the national level this past year the boy scouts finished building their new sea base they ran out of money before all the building and renovation was complete the local carpenters union volunteered help it was rough because everybody gave you some kind of a an excuse but after they once got down here and seen what was involved but they were really enthused on it i think the most we ever had was nine men we worked on a saturday and sundays being in the carpenters union we all have kids we're all very interested in youth programs and sea scouts i think it's a wonderful organization i think it's marvelous what they're doing i'm sister michelle renee i'm director of el medina literacy center again what is the sign of that vowel we have the people from ecuador and we have some from el salvador and we have many from mexico they all want to learn they all work so hard at learning what's the sound change we're very very interested in teaching them to speak the language i stress that when i train the teachers we have a lady who is 80 years old now that started and she's struggling but she's learning say mother wow very good very good yeah irene you're funny if you have a little love and patience then you can do almost anything you want this past year is host of the easter seals telethon i got a firsthand look at what rio is doing it doesn't take an investigative reporter to find out how much help they can provide tammy walker is in our child development program at the rehab institute of orange we're a private therapy center in orange county and we service just about all of the different kinds of therapy physical therapy occupational therapy pool speech child development seniors program and vocational training good boy nicholas is finally doing an adaptive response versus just pure reflexes one day everything's normal the next day your whole way of life is done a complete change around the thing that i really like is now he's attempting to bring you i'm doug miller and i'm the father of nicholas i'm in this direction now you name it besides being premature he had a ventricle bleed in his brain he had heart problems kidney problems i see what my wife goes through because she has him all day the father can escape he can go to work and get his mind somewhere else but you're still thinking about it it's a part of life you have your ups and you have your downs and with necklace it's a day by day situation rocky baby we're very fortunate in having the senior program here we not only had the evaluation of our disabilities but we had the friendship and the support and the feeling that well we're not alone being disabled shake your hands real good first shake we've all had experiences that we want to forget and we don't talk about our feelings we just laugh and smile which is the best thing to do picture frame hold it even if the united way reaches this year's goal the fantasy ends and reality begins the 85 agencies have a combined budget in the millions of dollars but even with all their projected income including the 20 from united way they'll still be at least five million dollars short today funding is often just not available so we of the private sector have got to get involved by helping you can be assured of responsible allocations of funds and know that the biggest share of your dollar is getting to the agency this year's general campaign chairman maury dewald the united way has an allocation committee which will actually review the needs of each member agency as well as prospective member agencies i think you'd be quite amazed at the efficiency with which united way is run each agency is audited they're vitally interested in the future and the success and the overall growth of a place called orange county so that's where we stand why not get involved helping helping feels good [Music] yeah so um for some of you that have uh not watched the show uh we often show films that feature music that triggers um the copyright hammer to come down to stop streaming on youtube or facebook or whatever it is i'm using so i try to stand by i i kind of let it sneak because it was the slower part of the song and um but yeah who knows i'm sure i'm gonna get some sort of flagged emails um that say no no no um it's very frustrating feels so bad um such a great song anyhow what do i got coming up what do i got here uh let me set up something uh real quick um in the meantime i just want to say thanks to alex for the coffee uh one way you can support av geeks is by buying us some coffee um and there's a link to it to right there buy me a coffee dot com slash av geeks you can also go to avgeeks.com and see other things that we've put online over the last decade or so uh and um so i'm talking to you as i'm trying to find something to play it's probably the worst idea um what we got here no i didn't time things right like the the stuff i have set up oh yeah watch this um there's a good chance i've shown this before but it's so great and it's uh um is in conjunction with the uh where uh safety shoes um film that i showed i think i got both of those on ebay at some point but uh here we go here's uh where eye protection enjoy [Music] down uh hey [Music] [Applause] huh foreign [Music] uh hmm so [Laughter] um pretty great uh you know the message kind of gets across there uh and you know i think uh last when i showed the uh wear safety shoes one someone was like why do they have a woman you know wearing the safety shoes like shouldn't this be for men and it's like no the point is you want to get the men's attention so you have an attractive young lady who's modeling the behavior that you want um modeled and so you got the retention you're like oh i get it i see why you want to wear safety glasses and eye protection and safety shoes etc uh that's this that's the the take on it is um you know what does a filmmaker have to do to get your attention to where you'll watch it but you'll also um absorb the knowledge that's the constant struggle of educational filmmakers and that's why they use animation why they use puppets why they use clowns why they use lots of different things to try to those little gimmicks to get you interested and uh we delight in the fact that they sometimes fail miserably so um thanks again everybody for tuning in and uh we will be back again tomorrow at one 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